I am against spinning out org.apache.commons.math4.complex out into yet another component. The argument that Gilles refuses to support org.apache.commons.math4.complex because he does not want to support all of org.apache.commons.math4 in favor of supporting a COPY of org.apache.commons.math4.complex into org.apache.commons.complex does not hold water for me. If I misrepresent, I apologize.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote: > On Tue, 25 Oct 2016 10:32:20 -0700, Gary Gregory wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 8:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann < >> jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Honestly, I really wonder why all this stuff has to fork yet another >>> commons component. IMO, CM could just have been changed to emit >>> multiple jar files with no need for other components. No need for >>> discussions, no need for new repositories in Git, no need for new >>> stuff in Jira. Or, to put it different: Less to maintain. >>> >>> >> +1 >> >> I am against this constant spinning out. >> > > I've argued that the original mistake was to let CM extend beyond > the stat toolbox it was when the component was created. > Please refer to the ML archive. > That's way in the past and we have math3 and math4 now. > The fix is to separate what was never actually a coherent whole > (from the contents, programming style, and management POVs). > That's not a "fix". That's a complete re-architecting, hence perhaps the "H" project. > If you are against something, you have to provide a technical > argument. There can be none (see previous paragraph). > What you provide is not a technical argument, it's an opinion, IMO ;-) Moving code around and putting bits in different buckets is not a technical argument IMO. That's just managing deliverables, which is worth talking about. Gary > > This discussion could have been the business of a new TLP (as > promoted by James Carman). > This has been REFUSED. > > People are willing to actively create, maintain and use an > eco-system of components on which they are more expert than > anyone else here. > And people who never read a single line from the CM codebase > would just be "against" it? > > > Gilles > > >> Gary >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Eric Barnhill <ericbarnh...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > As the recent contribution shows the commons-math complex library >>> remains >>> > quite useful to many applications. >>> > >>> > Following in the footsteps of commons-rng, commons-complex seems like a >>> > good next component of math to spin out and actively maintain. I am >>> willing >>> > to oversee and maintain the project. >>> > >>> > It may be that as I get into it, complex will have dependencies that >>> more >>> > properly belong in a core library. I propose to just get started on the >>> > library and sort these issues as they come up. >>> > >>> > I would take the following positions as regards this library: >>> > >>> > - Add syntactic sugar so that typical C++ calls are compatible: yes >>> > - Keep completely backwards compatible: yes >>> > - Follow the C++ architecture including an Imaginary data type with its >>> own >>> > behavior: no >>> > - Like C++, incorporate complex typing other than double: no >>> > >>> > -Eric >>> >>> >>> >>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org > > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1617290459/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1617290459&linkCode=as2&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=cadb800f39946ec62ea2b1af9fe6a2b8> <http:////ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a=1617290459> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935182021/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935182021&linkCode=as2&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=31ecd1f6b6d1eaf8886ac902a24de418%22> <http:////ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a=1935182021> Spring Batch in Action <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935182951/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1935182951&linkCode=%7B%7BlinkCode%7D%7D&tag=garygregory-20&linkId=%7B%7Blink_id%7D%7D%22%3ESpring+Batch+in+Action> <http:////ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=garygregory-20&l=am2&o=1&a=1935182951> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
