[sorry for the comments from the peanut gallery, I haven't been following MATH and likely will never contribute anything substantial]
On 2017-04-12, Gilles wrote: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:03:05 +0200, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >> What do you expect now that is blocked by the PMC? > With "Commons RNG", I think that I showed that the "new, small, > focused components" route is the right one.[1] I agree. > Last time I acted (to request a "git" repository from INFRA), you > (IIRC, pardon me if I'm wrong) complained ;-) that it had not been > agreed upon... The details are escaping me, maybe you need to state your desire to break a new piece out of MATH as a separate component first and give people time to comment before requesting a repo for it? Alternatively start inside the sandbox (I hope nobody has ever stopped anybody from creating a sandbox component - but I may certainly have missed it). > IMO, there is a contradiction in the PMC being both passive (not > contributing to the overall health of CM[2]) and active (in preventing > "do-ocracy" wrt the choice of a roadmap for CM[3]). You can count myself into the camp of people who are willing to let a component go dormant if it doesn't get maintained. But I'm unlikely to go actively looking for unmaintained components. Looking at the commits of commons-math it seems to get some love from time to time, not enough that anybody would want to cut a release, though. I'm not sure we need a roadmap. IMHO if you can identify a viable subset of MATH you want to maintain as a separate component, then you should be able to do just that. At the same time this shouldn't prevent anybody else from working on MATH if they really want to. > Moreover, the lack of interest shown by the PMC: > http://markmail.org/thread/pgrgnnwjnqrtzrw3 proves that nobody apart from Rob is willing to cut a MATH release right now. The same would likely be true for a few other components as well (the last DISCOVERY release is almost six years old) and it doesn't worry me at all. It only says "MATH may be a candidate for going dormant" to me. This is a PMC member view and certainly not the view of a MATH user. But you are asking for a PMC opinion. > is a worrying indication that any further work can be doomed to not > get the minimal support for an official release, even if there would > be no "technical reason"[4] to prevent such release. Not really. I regularly ask for feedback on COMPRESS without getting any responses but still manage to collect enough votes when I want to carve a new release. Fortunately there are a few "hero"s (many thanks to you!) on this list who manage to review RCs and cast votes for almost every candidate thrown their way, I'm not one of them. Stefan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@commons.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@commons.apache.org
