Can this project be forked to a new domain over on GitHub (under the
existing Apache license), split up and then continued in that case?
Cheers,
Martijn
On 3 December 2017 at 11:51, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2017 11:18:18 +0100, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Gilles <gil...@harfang.homelinux.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There hasn't been any progress towards a decision.
>>> There isn't even a consensus on one of the central tenets of
>>> Apache ("Those who do the work..."): how sad/strange (?).
>>>
>>
>> Those who do the work are welcome to decide on their own, if they do
>> not involve others.
>>
>
> The conditional is not part of the well-known mantra.
>
> The issue here is to answer the question of what to do with
> a non-trivial code base. My stance is to try and fix the
> problem(s), a.o. difficult management, by rooting out its
> main cause: CM has become an aggregate of components with
> completely different subject matters, scopes, designs,
> efficiencies, provisions for extension, etc.
> [An array of issues which "maven" modules will not solve.]
>
> We are seemingly faced with a choice between:
> 1. Maintain CM as the huge library that it is now.
> 2. Incrementally create maintainable components.
>
> A long time has passed since these alternatives were first
> exposed, only proving that none of the people who informally
> chose option(1) invested work to make it a reality.
>
> Refusing option (2) not only "involves others"; it is harming
> them (very real people, having done a lot of work here, on
> that code base).
>
> Establishing a new commons component doesn't
>> qualify, IMO.
>>
>
> True; that's why we are stalled, despite that a majority
> of the PMC did not explicitly oppose option (2).
>
> A handful of PMC people prefer to let the code base become
> "dormant" rather than give any chance to an alternate view.
> [If, say, you looked at the "Commons RNG" project, and
> concluded that, decidedly, this is not how a component
> should look like, then I could perhaps fathom out where
> those reservations come from.]
>
> Gilles
>
>
>> Jochen
>>
>
>
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