From my perspective, we all need to move on to newer versions of Java, and 
while it’s a pain, it’s also key to gaining new capabilities.  

> On May 23, 2024, at 3:42 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> User experience is subjective... ;-)
> 
> What happens when Java 11 is EOL? The frames will be gone for good anyway.
> 
> Gary
> 
> On Thu, May 23, 2024, 3:41 PM Emmanuel Bourg <ebo...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> So there is nothing I can do to convince you to install OpenJDK 11 to
>> improve the user experience? Having multiple JDKs installed isn't
>> uncommon though.
>> 
>> Emmanuel Bourg
>> 
>> 
>> Le 23/05/2024 à 20:47, Gary Gregory a écrit :
>>> ATM, I am using Java 17 for everything, at work, at FOSS.
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 23, 2024, 2:28 PM Emmanuel Bourg <ebo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What about building with JDK 11 and the -frame option then? That's the
>>>> best of both worlds.
>>>> 
>>>> Emmanuel Bourg
>>>> 
>>>> Le 23/05/2024 à 18:44, Gary Gregory a écrit :
>>>>> I disagree, I think the search box is a great feature.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, May 23, 2024, 11:26 AM Emmanuel Bourg <ebo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> -0
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The javadoc was built with Java 17 and is less usable than the javadoc
>>>>>> generated by Java 8. I recommend building the next release with Java 8
>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Emmanuel Bourg
>> 
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