On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:27 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 14:45, Gary D. Gregory <ggreg...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Here is the draft of our board report for June I plan on submitting in a
> day or so, feedback is welcome.
> >
> > ## Description:
> > The mission of Apache Commons is the creation and maintenance of Java
> focused
> > reusable libraries and components
> >
> > ## Project Status:
> > Current project status: Ongoing with moderate activity.
> > Issues for the board: none.
> >
> > ## Membership Data:
> > Apache Commons was founded 2007-06-19 (17 years ago)
> > There are currently 149 committers and 44 PMC members in this project.
> > The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 5:2.
>
> Missing from this paragraph is the fact that Commons has enabled
> universal commit.
>
> > Community changes, past quarter:
> > - Claude Warren was added to the PMC on 2024-03-22
> > - No new committers. Last addition was Claude Warren on 2022-02-01.
> >
> > ## Project Activity:
> > Many releases of our components:
> >     CONFIGUATION-2.11.0 was released on 2024-06-10.
>
> Is that a new component?
>
> >     NET-3.11.1 was released on 2024-06-10.
> >     PARENT-71 was released on 2024-06-10.
> >     JEXL-3.4.0 was released on 2024-06-06.
> >     NET-3.11.0 was released on 2024-05-31.
> >     VALIDATOR-1.9.0 was released on 2024-05-28.
> >     JCS-3.2.1 was released on 2024-05-27.
> >     DAEMON-1.4.0 was released on 2024-05-24.
> >     CLI-1.8.0 was released on 2024-05-23.
> >     COMPRESS-1.26.2 was released on 2024-05-23.
> >     LOGGING-1.3.2 was released on 2024-05-15.
> >     PARENT-70 was released on 2024-05-15.
> >     CSV-1.11.0 was released on 2024-05-02.
> >     RELEASE-PLUGIN-1.8.2 was released on 2024-04-19.
> >     CLI-1.7.0 was released on 2024-04-18.
> >     IMAGING-1.0.0-alpha5 was released on 2024-04-18.
> >     TEXT-1.12.0 was released on 2024-04-16.
> >     BUILD-PLUGIN-1.14.0 was released on 2024-04-15.
> >     IO-2.16.1 was released on 2024-04-08.
> >     COLLECTIONS-4.5.0-M1 was released on 2024-04-02.
> >     IMAGING-1.0.0-alpha4 was released on 2024-04-02.
> >     PARENT-69 was released on 2024-04-01.
> >     IO-2.16.0 was released on 2024-03-28.
> >     LOGGING-1.3.1 was released on 2024-03-24.
> >     PARENT-68 was released on 2024-03-23.
> >     CONFIGURATION-2.10.1 was released on 2024-03-20.
> >     CONFIGURATION-2.10.0 was released on 2024-03-13.
>
> The above list should probably be sorted
>
> > ## Community Health:
> > We welcomed Claude Warren as our latest PMC member. Mailing list
> activity has
> > increased.
>
> Much of the increased mailing list activity is driven by dependabot
> PRs, many of which are useless, as it does not take Java compatibility
> into account.
>

+1
I have had to filter out most of the messages and once I do that, there is
almost no actual discussion on-list.  I am worried that when people do try
to start discussion, the messages are being missed.  I personally see the
lack of ml discussion as a problem.  Lots of code changes are happening
with no discussion, other than maybe random nits on PRs ending up in github
threads that don't end up organized that well in list archives.  This
problem is not unique to Commons.

Phil

>
>
> > Most if not all of our increasing contributions are coming in
> > through GitHub pull requests. This is working well for us: GitHub PRs
> with
> > continuous integration builds providing great infrastructure and
> validation of
> > PRs and the existing code base. The flip side is that the increase in
> GitHub
> > usage is matched by a decrease in Jira usage.
> >
> > Gary
> >
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