On 2024/06/12 17:17:24 Phil Steitz wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 7:27 AM sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 14:45, Gary D. Gregory <ggreg...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > Here is the draft of our board report for June I plan on submitting in a
> > day or so, feedback is welcome.
> > >
> > > ## Description:
> > > The mission of Apache Commons is the creation and maintenance of Java
> > focused
> > > reusable libraries and components
> > >
> > > ## Project Status:
> > > Current project status: Ongoing with moderate activity.
> > > Issues for the board: none.
> > >
> > > ## Membership Data:
> > > Apache Commons was founded 2007-06-19 (17 years ago)
> > > There are currently 149 committers and 44 PMC members in this project.
> > > The Committer-to-PMC ratio is roughly 5:2.
> >
> > Missing from this paragraph is the fact that Commons has enabled
> > universal commit.
> >
> > > Community changes, past quarter:
> > > - Claude Warren was added to the PMC on 2024-03-22
> > > - No new committers. Last addition was Claude Warren on 2022-02-01.
> > >
> > > ## Project Activity:
> > > Many releases of our components:
> > >     CONFIGUATION-2.11.0 was released on 2024-06-10.
> >
> > Is that a new component?
> >
> > >     NET-3.11.1 was released on 2024-06-10.
> > >     PARENT-71 was released on 2024-06-10.
> > >     JEXL-3.4.0 was released on 2024-06-06.
> > >     NET-3.11.0 was released on 2024-05-31.
> > >     VALIDATOR-1.9.0 was released on 2024-05-28.
> > >     JCS-3.2.1 was released on 2024-05-27.
> > >     DAEMON-1.4.0 was released on 2024-05-24.
> > >     CLI-1.8.0 was released on 2024-05-23.
> > >     COMPRESS-1.26.2 was released on 2024-05-23.
> > >     LOGGING-1.3.2 was released on 2024-05-15.
> > >     PARENT-70 was released on 2024-05-15.
> > >     CSV-1.11.0 was released on 2024-05-02.
> > >     RELEASE-PLUGIN-1.8.2 was released on 2024-04-19.
> > >     CLI-1.7.0 was released on 2024-04-18.
> > >     IMAGING-1.0.0-alpha5 was released on 2024-04-18.
> > >     TEXT-1.12.0 was released on 2024-04-16.
> > >     BUILD-PLUGIN-1.14.0 was released on 2024-04-15.
> > >     IO-2.16.1 was released on 2024-04-08.
> > >     COLLECTIONS-4.5.0-M1 was released on 2024-04-02.
> > >     IMAGING-1.0.0-alpha4 was released on 2024-04-02.
> > >     PARENT-69 was released on 2024-04-01.
> > >     IO-2.16.0 was released on 2024-03-28.
> > >     LOGGING-1.3.1 was released on 2024-03-24.
> > >     PARENT-68 was released on 2024-03-23.
> > >     CONFIGURATION-2.10.1 was released on 2024-03-20.
> > >     CONFIGURATION-2.10.0 was released on 2024-03-13.
> >
> > The above list should probably be sorted
> >
> > > ## Community Health:
> > > We welcomed Claude Warren as our latest PMC member. Mailing list
> > activity has
> > > increased.
> >
> > Much of the increased mailing list activity is driven by dependabot
> > PRs, many of which are useless, as it does not take Java compatibility
> > into account.
> >
> 
> +1
> I have had to filter out most of the messages and once I do that, there is
> almost no actual discussion on-list.  I am worried that when people do try
> to start discussion, the messages are being missed.  I personally see the
> lack of ml discussion as a problem.  Lots of code changes are happening
> with no discussion, other than maybe random nits on PRs ending up in github
> threads that don't end up organized that well in list archives.  This
> problem is not unique to Commons.

Hi Phil,

We had a discussion a while back about creating a "bot" email list but:
- no one actually proposed anything concrete and did any work
- we already have bot lists like "commit", "notifications", "issues", can't we 
reuse those?
- I don't know if GitHub lets us configure target emails for "I created a PR" 
(or someone commented on a PR), vs. other types of messages.

Gary

> 
> Phil
> 
> >
> >
> > > Most if not all of our increasing contributions are coming in
> > > through GitHub pull requests. This is working well for us: GitHub PRs
> > with
> > > continuous integration builds providing great infrastructure and
> > validation of
> > > PRs and the existing code base. The flip side is that the increase in
> > GitHub
> > > usage is matched by a decrease in Jira usage.
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
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