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> On 07/gen/2015, at 09:26, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On 06/01/2015 Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> With regard to "competitors," I just remind myself that forking is a >> feature and that community before code means not acting like a >> competitor. One should not accept the so-called competitor's terms >> of debate, no matter how much individuals might see and even prefer >> "competition." > > I'll just note that "Forking is a feature" is totally unrelated to what I > wrote. If Microsoft starts a campaign to advocate IIS over the Apache HTTP > Server, that PMC will have to follow your route and "not accept the terms of > debate" or it will have to give an answer, and part of it may have to be > discussed confidentially (even the Foundation Press Releases are not > discussed in public before they are issued; in the real world... this > happens). Exactly. We do all know very well Apache PR are discussed privately, not differently we (AOO) do discuss how to address jpirnalists' questions privately, so that we do not look naive by debating all details on a public ML, getting ridicolous and giving journalists a chance to point to this or that opinion expressed in those threads. > > The discussion that followed seems to clearly show that this stays undecided. > So, coming back to the maturity model, I think that we can recommend a wise > usage of the private list, but not necessarily restrict it to votes and > security. Trademark violations for example surely belong there, and more can > belong there depending on the project and on its public image. > > A note to reassure those who oppose it: I've never seen marketing strategy > discussions on the private lists I'm subscribed to. I'm definitely not a > marketing-oriented person, but I don't see marketing as inherently evil > either. I always thought Apache was about the code, how discussing some marketing stuff within the PMC could be seen as a closed-source practice goes beyond my comprension. Roberto > > Regards, > Andrea.
