On 14 February 2015 at 20:03, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) < ross.gard...@microsoft.com> wrote:
> Louis, for independent data see > http://openlife.cc/blogs/2010/november/how-grow-your-open-source-project-10x-and-revenues-5x > > This isn't about the ASF but about foundations in general. > +1 I for one, have been confused about some of the discussions lately, that have rattled my fundamental beliefs in why I spent so many hours being ASF I strongly favor someone telling me (and a lot of others), what are the main differences between ASF and other equally good foundations. Sorry to say it loud, but sometimes I feel we (ASF) are trying to do what everybody want, instead of concentrating on what we are good at. I have a feeling that we are standing at a crossroad where many questions like Directd funding, ApacheCON, entry ticket to ASF (Incubator/pTLP) tear us apart, and I believe it is high time the members of ASF take a stand (whatever it may be), and show we are ONE united in the APACHE WAY. Just my feelings, sorry for disrupting in the higher politics. rgds jan i > > Sent from my Windows Phone > ________________________________ > From: Louis Suárez-Potts<mailto:lui...@gmail.com> > Sent: 2/14/2015 9:48 AM > To: dev@community.apache.org<mailto:dev@community.apache.org> > Subject: Re: Apache Way talks > > > > On 14-02-2015, at 11:47, Nick Burch <n...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 14 Feb 2015, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) wrote: > >> There is value in these sessions, some people are completely new and we > probably should still schedule them. However, I think we ought to do some > new stuff along the lines of: > >> > >> How is the ASF different from other foundations? > >> Why should I bring my project to Apache? > >> How can I get paid to work on Apache projects? > >> How do I build a business around apache software? > >> Why doesn't the ASF pay for software development? > >> Why, after 15 years, do people see the ASF as a desirable place to take > software? > >> Why does the ASF have a reputation for bureaucracy amongst the younger > GitHub crowd? > >> Just what rules are immutable in the ASF? > > > > Looks a great list to me! > > > > My only comment is that these look like the titles of all the sessions > from a Community Track[1], rather than the parts of an abstract for just > one talk. Is that what you had in mind? Or do you think we can really fit > all of that into a single session? > > > > Nick > > > > [1] Or even a whole conference! Say, called something like Transfer > > Summit? ;-) > > are there easily available data showing the benefits of plunking a project > in Apache? One could also use, I’d imagine, other measures of ecosystem > robustness. Basically, some measure or set thereof that illustrates the > comparative benefit of Apache—? > > Louis > >
