> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Wenk [mailto:andyw...@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 14:26
> To: dev@community.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Trouble child OpenOffice
> 
> Hi Raphael,
> 
> this is really sad to hear. The gap between so many users and a
> vanishing community developers wise is really strange. So the question
> comes to mind what the reasons are for this situation:
> 
> * are there problems in the community - especially among the developers?
> * is OpenOffice not competitive anymore compared to Microsoft Office?
> * is OpenOffice not competitive anymore compared to Google Docs and
> similar tools?
> * are the download numbers correct?
[orcmid] 

>From 2017-01-01 to 2017-03-31, the first quarter of 2017, Apache OpenOffice 
>4.1.3 was downloaded from the SourceForge mirrors over 9 million times.

You can see the distribution by platform at 
<https://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.1.3/stats/os?dates=2017-01-01+to+2017-03-31>

> * do you have an idea about the acceptance of OpenOffice in the wide
> world (marketing. press and so on)?
[orcmid] 

You can see the distribution by language and nation (roughly based on the 
origin of the download request).

> 
> I am quite sure you already asked and discussed these questions. But
> maybe they trigger some in depth discussions to better understand the
> “why”
> 
> I wish you all the best with the project and hope, that it will move on.
> 
> Andy
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> 
> > On 19. Apr 2017, at 22:19, Raphael Bircher <rbircherapa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi people
> >
> > I want to raise a question here. I know, we have to solve our problems
> our self, but maybe here are people with ideas. OpenOffice has a big
> community problem. The community was simply melted away in the last
> year. We have at the moment no Company who offer devs. And the rest of
> the community fights the absolutely urgent issues. There was already a
> discussion about retirement, it was refused. But this doesn't mean we
> are out of the danger zone.
> >
> > The sweet part of this story is our user base. We have 100'000
> Downloads EVERY single DAY. I mean, this is crazy. We have really loyal
> users. We get also frequently messages from user who just want to say
> "thank you".
> >
> > The sad thing about this is, they have actually no chance to do
> something for the program. They are looked out. Remember, they are
> normal users, they are no developers. They are typically private users
> or small companies. But imagine what happened if only a small part of
> our users pay 20$.
> >
> > We really need devs and we need skilled one, because OpenOffice is
> challenging for programmers. Companies with a load of money has a easy
> way to influence an Apache project. Simply pay a developer, that's it.
> But people without big pocket are simply looked out. (if they have no
> programmer skills) That's not fair!
> >
> > How to solve this problem? Thanks a load.
> >
> > Regards Raphael
> >
> > --
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> >
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