Hi, It is true that Github is, at the end of the day, a commercial entity, and that we're placing valuable metadata, regarding the changes that eventually will end up being maintained by the members of our projects. Like Rich said there is a great value on being reachable to outside contributors, and right now I would say that a lot of them find use through Github because at this point is a very logical assumption (from the user's point of view).
I've seen that some projects (I've seen this on Nutch) mirror the interactions on Github into Jira, at least as long as the PR is linked to the appropriate issue in Jira, that way we still keep the conversation around the proposed changes in our control. The integration could be improved but I think this protects us partially. Perhaps this could be used by more/all projects? At least it could be included in the contributions guidelines of our repositories. Best Regards, Jorge On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 3:39 PM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > > On 2/18/19 9:30 AM, Julian Foad wrote: > > Thanks for your comments, Rich. > > > > Re. "owning our data": we do own our source code but what about all the > conversational metadata in GH? In the Subversion project we have a GH > mirror of the code but pull requests and code comments etc. in GH aren't > even copied to the Subversion PMC mailing lists, apart from the first > message in each PR which is; these are known limitations. > > Indeed. This is a very good point. > > > > > Re. "infra": infra is here to create and manage the infra to support the > projects' wants and needs; I am speaking here to the community to try to > influence their wants and needs. > > Yeah, I would also like to see us move away from GitHub. But the > argument that it's where people look first, is compelling. Perhaps we > can be influential in changing that? I don't know. > > > > -- > Rich Bowen - rbo...@rcbowen.com > http://rcbowen.com/ > @rbowen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
