I agree with Sam that if we do not formalize this as a committee it will
die.

I understand and acknowledge the reasons why this being part of ComDev
makes sense: simplicity and agility to get off the ground.

However, this rationale still treats the effort to embrace the need for a
Diversity and Inclusion strategy as a proof of concept, expecting it will
die. I have committed to make this happen and the commitment includes
driving this through the bureocracy needed to make the group and efforts
part of the ASF DNA.

If we do not do it now, it will just become what Naomi mentioned: yet
another try.

I am happy to walk the walk and structure work and needs to make this
happen.

I would suggest we still aim for the committee or at least define a clear
goal to hit for it to graduate to that level. Right now the
success.measurement is unclear and vague.

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019, 8:12 AM Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org>
wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 4:57 PM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> > ...My feeling is that it will die here...
>
> IIUC what's been proposed so far is a new mailing list and issue tracker.
>
> Both can very well be owned by comdev and that shouldn't limit
> progress in any way.
>
> It's just that the comdev PMC is responsible for oversight and
> reporting on those new initiatives, and it keeps things simple for
> now.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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