@Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> - absolutely, thanks for mentioning that. My intention is to hash-out as many details as possible and get as much input as possible from relevant people to make a strong case to the board. While I am not an ASF member myself, just a PMC, I watched some of the Apache Con talks and I understand that board operates in asynchronous mode and that they should get an information that they could digest earlier, offline and make decisions quickly, so I want to make everything to make it clear and straightforward and - possibly have a strong case, supported, or at least with very limited number of strong "no" opinions, so I am still in the phase of involving people and gathering feedback.
@Justin - I read it and I think this is all really great. I think it very nicely documents the current policies and beyond, there is only one thing in both - current release policies and the incubator distribution guidelines that are a bit contradictory and I hope part of my proposal for policy update addresses. And I know it's the toughest one. It's about category X software inclusion in binary convenience packages. As I see it is pretty much impossible not to include category X software in a docker image. Since they are Linux-kernel based usually there are always some GPL licensed libraries included in those. While I perfectly understand that "COMPILED PACKAGES" should not contain Category X software, I think "Docker images" (and likely other binary distribution mechanisms - for example those that package software for installation on Windows/Mac workstation) can - and it should be allowed. Unfortunately according to the policies "Convenience binaries need to follow licensing policy and not include any category X licensed software." So the really only thing I am looking for is to introduce a separate category for those different "packaging mechanism" and separate them out (and explicitly name as category). For now we either release "software" or "convenience binaries". And docker images are neither. J, On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 3:14 AM Justin Mclean <jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote: > Hi, > > > I am not even sure myself if I am the only one who feels the > disconnection > > between reality and the current policies, that's why I started the thread > > here. > > You would not be the only person who set this. People and project are > making small steps to correct this. Recently Infra’s distribution policy > was updated and the Incubator made these guidelines. [1] Note that Infra do > support docker as a platform. > > Thanks, > Justin > > 1. https://incubator.apache.org/guides/distribution.html > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > -- +48 660 796 129
