> On Apr 20, 2022, at 12:31 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 2:32 PM Christian Grobmeier
> <grobme...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]. Actually, such a company would basically only need the blessing of
>> the ASF and [snip]
>
> Honest question: why?
>
> Since the beginning of the ASF, there have been companies which
> provide commercial support for one or more of our products. None of
> them have had any sort of blessing or exclusive rights. The ASF
> doesn't care how they are structured or if they are for profit or
> non-profit.
>
> We don't merely tolerate such organizations --as long as they don't
> make assertions about owning the products or having any sorts of
> exclusive rights, we welcome and celebrate them. One such company was
> Covalent, and understanding what worked well and what didn't work so
> well might be helpful here. I've added a few links at the bottom of
> this email. By the way, the headline on the first link is something
> that would be considered very problematic - specifically the word
> "THE".
Exactly. This is an ongoing issue for some Vendors.
>
> If there is a need for a blessing, the reasoning behind such a need
> will have to be explicitly enumerated. As a practical matter, it is
> difficult to come to consensus with the membership, this doesn't feel
> like an operational matter which would fall under the purview of the
> president, so ultimately it is likely that it would have to be the
> board that provides any blessing.
We could encourage Support Co to review branding and press requirements to make
sure they don’t cross the line into misrepresentation of their relationship
with the ASF and any particular project.
>
> Speaking as a board member: I'd like to encourage the idea of one (or
> more!) support organizations, but would like to push back on the idea
> that such organization(s) need any sort of blessing. If I'm wrong,
> please convince me otherwise.
Agree. The only “blessing” would be if a concrete case is egregious. This is an
ongoing task of PMCs, Press, and Brand.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
> https://www.cmswire.com/cms/open-source-cms/covalent-is-the-apache-support-group-001328.php
> http://www.lannigan.org/Covalent_History_Covalent_Technologies.htm
>
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