On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 at 02:44, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Oct 2, 2025, at 09:58, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 at 17:20, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> On Oct 2, 2025, at 11:36 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Also, I suppose a related question is, do you think anyone would have > >>>> any objection to their name being listed on such a document on an Apache > >>>> website? I cannot personally think why they would (and this is all > >>>> already-public data) but I suppose it is possible that someone might, > >>>> and I want to be sensitive to that. > >>> > >>> AIUI, just because a particular item of PII is published in one > >>> location does not mean it can be published elsewhere. > >> > >> Yeah, that’s what I was a little concerned about. The legalities (and, > >> indeed, just individual preferences or sensitivities) around aggregating > >> metrics remains a bit fuzzy to me. Do you think that this is better kept > >> to myself, then? > >> > >>> Does the data have to be fully public? > >>> Indeed would it mean anything to the general public? > >> > >> > >> I think it’s most valuable to other contributors on the same project - who > >> are not necessarily committers or PMC members. What I’m specifically > >> trying to encourage with this data is for individuals on projects to > >> welcome and celebrate new community participants, and milestones of > >> existing participants, since that kind of recognition tends to lead to > >> higher retention rates, according to research that I’ve seen at several > >> recent conferences. And that is, after all, the mandate of this PMC. > >> > >> But I do want to do this in a way that is respectful to those same > >> contributors. > > > > I were a new joiner, and I did not want to appear in the listings, I'm > > not sure I would be happy to have to ask for my data to be omitted. > > What we do know is that the contributors' github id and email address are > public, assuming they appear in communications to the project's public mail > lists. So I have no privacy concerns "publishing" these bits of PII after > they are already public.
I thought once, but AIUI now, publication in one arena does not give carte blanche to publication anywhere else. > In any event, at the time when they accept an invitation for committer, these > bits will necessarily become public via announcement that they have been > voted and accepted for committer. There's also big a difference between being published as one name in hundreds or thousands of others, and as one name in a handful. > Craig > > > > >> — > >> Rich Bowen > >> [email protected] > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > Craig L Russell > [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
