What the fuk On Sat, Oct 4, 2025, 11:05 AM sebb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, 4 Oct 2025 at 02:44, Craig Russell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Oct 2, 2025, at 09:58, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2025 at 17:20, Rich Bowen <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> On Oct 2, 2025, at 11:36 AM, sebb <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Also, I suppose a related question is, do you think anyone would > have any objection to their name being listed on such a document on an > Apache website? I cannot personally think why they would (and this is all > already-public data) but I suppose it is possible that someone might, and I > want to be sensitive to that. > > >>> > > >>> AIUI, just because a particular item of PII is published in one > > >>> location does not mean it can be published elsewhere. > > >> > > >> Yeah, that’s what I was a little concerned about. The legalities > (and, indeed, just individual preferences or sensitivities) around > aggregating metrics remains a bit fuzzy to me. Do you think that this is > better kept to myself, then? > > >> > > >>> Does the data have to be fully public? > > >>> Indeed would it mean anything to the general public? > > >> > > >> > > >> I think it’s most valuable to other contributors on the same project > - who are not necessarily committers or PMC members. What I’m specifically > trying to encourage with this data is for individuals on projects to > welcome and celebrate new community participants, and milestones of > existing participants, since that kind of recognition tends to lead to > higher retention rates, according to research that I’ve seen at several > recent conferences. And that is, after all, the mandate of this PMC. > > >> > > >> But I do want to do this in a way that is respectful to those same > contributors. > > > > > > I were a new joiner, and I did not want to appear in the listings, I'm > > > not sure I would be happy to have to ask for my data to be omitted. > > > > What we do know is that the contributors' github id and email address > are public, assuming they appear in communications to the project's public > mail lists. So I have no privacy concerns "publishing" these bits of PII > after they are already public. > > I thought once, but AIUI now, publication in one arena does not give > carte blanche to publication anywhere else. > > > In any event, at the time when they accept an invitation for committer, > these bits will necessarily become public via announcement that they have > been voted and accepted for committer. > > There's also big a difference between being published as one name in > hundreds or thousands of others, and as one name in a handful. > > > Craig > > > > > > > >> — > > >> Rich Bowen > > >> [email protected] > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > Craig L Russell > > [email protected] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > >
