I think all the refresh stuff is super cool, I will share how I work, so you can get another perspective. 90% of my code is written on localhost, either running directly in a browser to work out UI stuff. When I need access to actual device APIs, I simply put a redirect in my index.html. This gets me through 99% of my work, after which I can fine tune an individual device or functional piece in XCode, Eclipse, Visual Studio, et al
When it comes to inclusion of multiple script tags, I do not see this as a barrier at all. This is the way the internet has always worked, and it ain't broke. I like the explicit declaration of having a script tag, plus you can have multiple pages, with different plugin requirements. Adding an extra build step, + reinventing the internet inside our framework is madness in my opinion. This of course does not preclude use of this technique, however, I feel very strongly that we should NOT be building this into our framework, and forcing developers to use this approach. I think this is definitely something that we should vote on before developing further if the goal is inclusion in cordova. Cheers, Jesse On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 2:34 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > super interesting. I like where this is going. > > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote: >> >> > Dude: awesome! >> > >> > My answers in-line: >> > >> > >2. Manually adding the <script> tags to include every new plugin is >> really >> > >lame. I propose a unified file, plugins.js or similar, that's always >> > >included in the index.html. Every time you add or remove a plugin, the >> > >Javascript files for all the plugins are concatenated into this file. >> > >There >> > >are likely some problems with this approach. Inserting/removing the >> > ><script> tags from the index page is also an option, though it requires >> > >more clever scripts. >> > >> > Can you elaborate more on this? I don't understand. >> > >> >> Here's the motivating example to explain this: >> - Our goal for 3.0 is to have cordova be just the bridge, and to have all >> core plugins in separate repos >> - Right now, when you pluginstall a plugin, you need to manually edit your >> .html to add the .js of the plugin in a <script> tag. >> - This will be quite annoying to have to add ~10 <script> tags, (one for >> each core plugin, plus one for each non-core plugin you have) >> >> Here's Braden's idea explained a bit more: >> - Have a plugin.js file in addition to the cordova.js file >> - cordova.js to have the platform's bridge & init code >> - plugins.js to contain the concatenation of all plugin .js files >> - plugins.js to be regenerated whenever a plugin is added / removed >> - Apps will need to add both .js files to their html, but not need to add a >> <script> for every plugin separately. >> >> >> >> > >> > >3. Setting the start page manually on every platform sucks. I think this >> > >should be a value in config.xml that gets set on cordova build. >> Obviously >> > >that requires 1. to be fixed, but we'll get there soon. >> > >> > Yes, there is config.xml prior art for this: >> > http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/#the-content-element-and-its-attributes >> > >> > We should file issues to add support for this. >> > >> > Thanks for forking + contributing to cordova-client, stoked to see more >> > contributors in there! Related: once we migrate to our new git repos we >> > should get a new one set up for cordova-client. >> > >> > >> -- @purplecabbage risingj.com