Thanks Lorin Looking forward to the feedback :)
We're working off 'blackberry10' branch now which was somewhat recently rebased from apache master. On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer....@gmail.com>wrote: > Hey guys, > > I'm tracking those issues we deem necessary to solve before we start the > migration process of BB's new implementation of Cordova for BB10 and > PlayBook. > > Master Issue lives here: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070 > I'll be populating this with subissues. > > An issue of confusion: the blackberry github > repo<https://github.com/blackberry/cordova-blackberry>seems to have > been push -f with Cordova's existing implementation. What > happened to your codes? > > > - Lorin > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > Go with a pull req / side branch for now and give everyone a month to > poke > > at it. > > > > On 4/15/13 10:43 AM, "Jeffrey Heifetz" <jheif...@blackberry.com> wrote: > > > > >Sounds awesome. Should we issue a pull request and someone will push to > a > > >branch, or would you like to give myself or Bryan commit access to do it > > >ourselves. > > > > > >We can push a "blackberry10" branch for everyone to look at and continue > > >to update there while giving the community a chance to play. > > > > > >As per the timeline I know I just said 2.7, but with only two weeks, > maybe > > >we should spend a large amount of time on our porting guide to make sure > > >all current cordova bb10 developers understand the changes. > > > > > >On 13-04-15 1:20 PM, "Filip Maj" <f...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > > > >>+1 > > >> > > >>Pretty sure we can rewrite any history so it would probably be two > > >>commits: a giant delete and a giant add. > > >> > > >>On 4/15/13 10:14 AM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote: > > >> > > >>>Yep. Could be as simple as a hard reset to the latest SHA from GitHub > if > > >>>the above is fulfilled. (Maybe start it in a new branch on Apache Git > > >>>for > > >>>us to review in the meantime.) > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Filip Maj <f...@adobe.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> WRT to BlackBerry since node is already required, it's not an > "extra" > > >>>> dependency. The other thread is related to Android (and possibly > > >>>> iOS/windows). > > >>>> > > >>>> As long as the new BB repo supports: > > >>>> > > >>>> 1. Plugin design and documentation on how to do so > > >>>> 2. Command line scripts [1] > > >>>> 3. Can run mobile spec and passes at a reasonable rate > > >>>> > > >>>> .. Im happy > > >>>> > > >>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/CommandLineToolingDesign > > >>>> > > >>>> On 4/15/13 9:45 AM, "Lorin Beer" <lorin.beer....@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> >First steps are to bring your repo in line with the current > workflow > > >>>>and > > >>>> >cross platform tool chain. > > >>>> >A for instance is the create script: the other platforms use bash > > >>>>scripts > > >>>> >for the 'create' command, and BlackBerry's BB10 repo is dependent > on > > >>>>Node. > > >>>> >There is an ongoing discussion on the list concerning node as a > > >>>>dependency > > >>>> >for our build toolchain, which I would encourage you to chime in > on. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> >On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Jeffrey Heifetz > > >>>> ><jheif...@blackberry.com>wrote: > > >>>> > > > >>>> >> So now that the code has been out for a bit we'd like to start > > >>>>talking > > >>>> >> about getting the code into the 2.7 release. > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> There are no longer any hacks or hoops to getting it running and > > >>>>anyone > > >>>> >> interested can try it out. Mobile spec results are about on par > > >>>>with > > >>>>the > > >>>> >> previous implementation and will continue to improve as we > > >>>>re-implement > > >>>> >> plugins. > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> So what is the process for getting a large number of commits into > > >>>> >>multiple > > >>>> >> repos? > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> On 13-04-08 1:39 PM, "Ken Wallis" <kwal...@blackberry.com> > wrote: > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> >To a degree I think the architecture has been simplified. Was > not > > >>>>the > > >>>> >> >Cordova APIs calling to WebWorks apis, which then hit native, > > >>>>whereas > > >>>> >>now > > >>>> >> >we don't have the WebWorks layer? > > >>>> >> >-- > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >Ken Wallis > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >Product Manager WebWorks > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >BlackBerry > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >289-261-4369 > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >________________________________________ > > >>>> >> >From: chris.del...@gmail.com [chris.del...@gmail.com] on behalf > > of > > >>>> >>Chris > > >>>> >> >DelCol [cdel...@blackberry.com] > > >>>> >> >Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 10:15 AM > > >>>> >> >To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > >>>> >> >Subject: Re: BlackBerry BB10 Repos on GitHub > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >I think the biggest impact is that the architecture and features > > >>>>of > > >>>> >> >Cordova > > >>>> >> >are now implemented directly, rather than through a proprietary > > >>>>SDK > > >>>> >>that > > >>>> >> >is > > >>>> >> >"somewhat" aligned. I'm not sure there will be actual > performance > > >>>> >>gains, > > >>>> >> >or > > >>>> >> >that the architecture is easier. But what it does mean is that > > >>>> >> >compatibility should go way up, and focus on it will go up as > well > > >>>> >>since > > >>>> >> >we > > >>>> >> >are not split between 2 competing products. > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Michal Mocny > > >>>><mmo...@chromium.org> > > >>>> >> wrote: > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >> This sounds pretty cool. > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> For those with no prior BB experience, is there a high level > > >>>>summary > > >>>> >>of > > >>>> >> >>the > > >>>> >> >> net effect of the changes? x% faster exec, N less bytes of > > >>>>binary, Y > > >>>> >> >> timesr > > >>>> >> >> easier plugin development etc? > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> Thanks, > > >>>> >> >> -Michal > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Bryan Higgins > > >>>> >><bhigg...@blackberry.com > > >>>> >> >> >wrote: > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > It's exactly the same as this extension, but we've converted > > >>>>it > > >>>> >>into a > > >>>> >> >> > cordova plugin. We'll provide both the source and > pre-compiled > > >>>> >> >>libraries. > > >>>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> >> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > https://github.com/blackberry/BB10-WebWorks-Framework/tree/master/ext/j > > >>>>p > > >>>>p > > >>>> >> >>s > > >>>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Lorin Beer > > >>>> >><lorin.beer....@gmail.com > > >>>> >> >> > >wrote: > > >>>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> > > sounds great Bryan, > > >>>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >> > > about the private native dependency, is that provided as a > > >>>> >> >>precompiled > > >>>> >> >> > > library? > > >>>> >> >> > > Can we run these codes? > > >>>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >> > > - Lorin > > >>>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >> > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:13 AM, Bryan Higgins > > >>>> >> >><bhigg...@blackberry.com > > >>>> >> >> > > >wrote: > > >>>> >> >> > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > Sounds good! There are still a few things we need to > > >>>>finish > > >>>>up > > >>>> >>to > > >>>> >> >>get > > >>>> >> >> > > test > > >>>> >> >> > > > results in line with the existing implementation. File > API > > >>>>is > > >>>> >>the > > >>>> >> >>big > > >>>> >> >> > > one. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > There is also a native library needed which is in the > > >>>>private > > >>>> >>repo > > >>>> >> >> > right > > >>>> >> >> > > > now. We'll look at moving that into cordova-blackberry. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Lorin Beer > > >>>> >> >><lorin.beer....@gmail.com > > >>>> >> >> > > > >>>> >> >> > > > wrote: > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > Great! Last week, I wrote a little script to provide > > >>>>unique > > >>>> >> >>tags to > > >>>> >> >> > the > > >>>> >> >> > > > > unit tests in mobile spec. Once those are tagged, I'll > > >>>>be > > >>>> >> >>pushing > > >>>> >> >> up > > >>>> >> >> > > the > > >>>> >> >> > > > > currently failing tests in the existing BB10 > > >>>>implementation. > > >>>> >> >>Having > > >>>> >> >> > > those > > >>>> >> >> > > > > tests documented will hopefully provide an anchor to > > >>>>move > > >>>>the > > >>>> >> >> > > discussion > > >>>> >> >> > > > > forward. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Bryan Higgins < > > >>>> >> >> > bhigg...@blackberry.com > > >>>> >> >> > > > > >wrote: > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > I'll follow up today with that. There are a few > people > > >>>>who > > >>>> >> >>need > > >>>> >> >> to > > >>>> >> >> > > sign > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > still. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Lorin Beer < > > >>>> >> >> > lorin.beer....@gmail.com > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > wrote: > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > This is great stuff! I figured we'd be waiting > for a > > >>>> >>while > > >>>> >> >> > longer, > > >>>> >> >> > > > > great > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > to > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > see this go live! > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > Tim and I will be going through this right away. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > Bryan, I know you are on the > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > list< > > >>>> >> >> https://people.apache.org/committer-index.html#unlistedclas > > >>>> >> >> > >; > > >>>> >> >> > > > has > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > the rest of your team signed the Apache CLA as > well? > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > - Lorin > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Tim Kim > > >>>> >><timki...@gmail.com > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >> > > wrote: > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > Awesome! > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > On 6 April 2013 08:16, Ken Wallis > > >>>> >><kwal...@blackberry.com > > >>>> >> > > > >>>> >> >> > > wrote: > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > So awesome to see this go live, thanks Bryan. > > >>>>Looking > > >>>> >> >> forward > > >>>> >> >> > > to > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > seeing > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > progress towards this being merged into the > > >>>>Apache > > >>>> >> >>repos! > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 smartphone. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > From: Bryan Higgins > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 6:42 AM > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > Subject: BlackBerry BB10 Repos on GitHub > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > Over the last few weeks, we at BlackBerry > > >>>>WebWorks > > >>>> >>have > > >>>> >> >> been > > >>>> >> >> > > > > working > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > on a > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > prototype for a new version of our SDK based > on > > >>>> >>Cordova. > > >>>> >> >> I'm > > >>>> >> >> > > > happy > > >>>> >> >> > > > > to > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > say > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > that we're now able to share our repos > publicly! > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > To understand what we've done, you will first > > >>>>need to > > >>>> >> >> > > understand > > >>>> >> >> > > > > that > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > WebWorks for BB10 is really 3 things: > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > 1. Packager (bbwp) a set of node scripts > to > > >>>> >> >>assemble > > >>>> >> >> > apps > > >>>> >> >> > > > from > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > source > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > 2. Framework handles bootstrap, extension > > >>>> >>loading, > > >>>> >> >> exec > > >>>> >> >> > > > calls, > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > events > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > 3. Extensions all of the APIs. Similar to > > >>>> >>cordova > > >>>> >> >> > plugins, > > >>>> >> >> > > > but > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > included in the SDK rather than directly in > the > > >>>> >>project. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > All of this is built on top of the "web > > >>>>platform" > > >>>>- a > > >>>> >> >>layer > > >>>> >> >> > on > > >>>> >> >> > > > top > > >>>> >> >> > > > > of > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > WebKit which exposes device APIs. We plan to > > >>>>document > > >>>> >> >>this > > >>>> >> >> > > layer > > >>>> >> >> > > > > and > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > provide instructions on how to build a web > > >>>>platform > > >>>> >>app > > >>>> >> >> using > > >>>> >> >> > > > only > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > the > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > NDK. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > For those wanting a rich set of APIs, we will > > >>>> >>provide a > > >>>> >> >> > Cordova > > >>>> >> >> > > > > build > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > along > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > with a set of custom plugins for platform > > >>>>features. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > To get to that world, we need to move some > logic > > >>>>from > > >>>> >> >>the > > >>>> >> >> > > > packager > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > and > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > framework into Cordova. This will really > > >>>>simplify > > >>>>the > > >>>> >> >>exec > > >>>> >> >> > > chain > > >>>> >> >> > > > > and > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > ease > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > plugin development. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > Old world: > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > Plugin script > cordova.exec > WebWorks > > >>>>extension > > >>>>> > > >>>> >> >> > > > webworks.exec > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > web > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > platform / native > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > New world: > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > Plugin script > cordova.exec > web platform / > > >>>>native > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > All of our repos are up at > > >>>>github.com/blackberry. > > >>>> >> >>Here's a > > >>>> >> >> > > quick > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > summary > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > of > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > what we have done so far. > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/blackberry/cordova-blackberry > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * split out BB10 from BBOS/PlayBook > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Re-implemented cordova create, build and > > >>>>run in > > >>>> >> >>node, > > >>>> >> >> > > using > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > libs > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > from > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > our packager > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Introduced "target" script for managing > > >>>>device > > >>>> >>and > > >>>> >> >> > > > simulator > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > configuration > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Started the process of converting core > > >>>>plugins > > >>>> >> >>from > > >>>> >> >> > > > wrappers > > >>>> >> >> > > > > to > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > calling web platform directly > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/blackberry/cordova-js > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Created blackberry10 as a top level > > >>>>platform > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Added some bootstrap, exec and event > logic > > >>>>from > > >>>> >> >>our > > >>>> >> >> > > > Framework > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Started the process of removing the > > >>>>wrappers > > >>>> >>(at > > >>>> >> >> which > > >>>> >> >> > > > point > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > cordova.exec and webworks.exec are merged and > > >>>> >>webworks > > >>>> >> >> events > > >>>> >> >> > > > will > > >>>> >> >> > > > > go > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > away) > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/blackberry/cordova-plugman > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Copy "controller" code (index.js) and > > >>>>native > > >>>> >>.so > > >>>> >> >> files > > >>>> >> >> > > into > > >>>> >> >> > > > > the > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > project > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Implemented our prototype of script > > >>>>injection > > >>>> >> >> (wrapping > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > js-modules > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > in > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > cordova.define and generating plugins.json). > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > https://github.com/blackberry/cordova-cli > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Minor changes to support splitting out > > >>>>BB10 > > >>>> >>from > > >>>> >> >>BBOS > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> https://github.com/blackberry/cordova-blackberry-plugins(not > > >>>> >> >> > > > yet > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > public,) > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > * Plugins for BB10 platform features > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > I know this is a lot of dump on the list at > > >>>>once, > > >>>>but > > >>>> >> >>Jeff > > >>>> >> >> > and > > >>>> >> >> > > I > > >>>> >> >> > > > > are > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > here > > >>>> >> >> > > > > > > > > to answer any questions or concerns. 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