Would suggest we document a simple workflow document "Upgrade Guide Cordova
CLI/PlugMan 3.0 to 3.1"
Same way that we do for the platforms on going over the details in a single
document.

--Carlos


On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote:

> I think the 3.0 instructions of removing the old plugin with the old ID
> remain correct even after we update the registry.  Thats because when
> removing plugins from a workspace you use the ID of whats locally
> installed.
>
> So, to upgrade, users would have the use the 3.0 uninstall guide and the
> 3.1 install guide.. I think?
>
> -Michal
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > That's a good summary. I am going to be fixing the reference problem
> > shortly and merge them back to the `dev` branch. Not sure if all of
> > Jesse's changes have made it to the `dev` branch yet.
> >
> > The `edge` docs have already been updated (see CB-4493)
> >
> > The `3.0` docs will have to be updated once we merge `dev` back to
> > `master` (which I hope we will before we release 3.1).
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I realize why Anis decided to do a new branch (3.1.0) because he didn't
> > > want to mess up dev/master. Before we release 3.1.0 we need to do a
> > plugin
> > > release based off of
> > http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/StepsForPluginRelease.
> > > Jesse has changes for the plugins that he has pushed to dev now based
> on
> > > this email thread. He needs these changes to be in the next plugin
> > release
> > > we are doing for the 3.1.0 release.
> > >
> > > If I am understanding this correctly, removing core from ID was not
> > > something we want in master due to 3.0.0 support. But this ID change
> > should
> > > have been done on dev before creating the 3.1.0 branch. The 3.0.0 docs
> > get
> > > users to install plugins using the git url. The problem is that the
> 3.0.0
> > > docs instruct our users to use the ID for plugin removal. Obviously if
> we
> > > change the ID, the remove documentation for 3.0.0 would be wrong.
> > >
> > > We have two options here as far as I can tell
> > >
> > > 1) Leave master alone for the next month or two and give people time to
> > > migrate to 3.1
> > > 2) Update the 3.0 documentation to refer to updated id, Push the
> updated
> > ID
> > > to dev then master.
> > >
> > > Things that need to be done
> > >  - Fix incorrect references to the old ID (last comment on
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4889)
> > >  - Merge these changes into dev (they really should be on dev if that
> is
> > > where we all the work done)
> > >  - Follow steps on
> http://wiki.apache.org/cordova/StepsForPluginReleaseand
> > > publish these plugins on our registry. This should include Jesse's work
> > as
> > > well.
> > >  - Update edge docs to refer to registry for plugin installation (not
> > sure
> > > if this has been done)
> > >  - Update 3.0.0 documentation if we decide option 2 from above is the
> way
> > > to go
> > >  - Tag docs 3.1.0-rc1
> > >
> > > I volunteer to take the lead on getting the plugins released + tested
> > > (supposed to be today according to Andrew's timeline) for tomorrow
> > > afternoon. I can get to the docs after that.
> > >
> > > Before I dive into this full steam, any feedback on above?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just to be super duper clear: the reason to work on 'dev' branch of
> > plugins
> > >> is not some process decision we are imposing, its a direct requirement
> > >> imposed on us by the limitations of our tools (specifically, the state
> > of
> > >> the registry as it was with 3.0 launch).
> > >>
> > >> We discussed this in-depth just a week ago (Read "About plugins in
> > 3.1"),
> > >> and I think several other times over the last month, if you would like
> > to
> > >> read up on the details look there.
> > >>
> > >> No one likes the situation, we've been making headway into fixing it
> > ever
> > >> since we discovered the problem, and it can be resolved as soon as
> users
> > >> upgrade from 3.0 (maybe that means we can switch after 3.1 release,
> > maybe
> > >> that means we wait for some 3-months deprecation time, not sure).
> > >>
> > >> -Michal
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Braden Shepherdson <
> > bra...@chromium.org
> > >> >wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I agree with Joe that developing on anything other than master
> sucks.
> > But
> > >> > unfortunately, our hands are tied in the near term because the
> > registry
> > >> > doesn't know to fetch plugins from anywhere else. Also it makes life
> > >> easier
> > >> > for being who are installing plugins from git URLs.
> > >> >
> > >> > I think we eventually want to get to a world where 99% of plugin
> > installs
> > >> > are happening from the registry, the registry knows how to fetch
> tags,
> > >> and
> > >> > people who are using git URLs directly know what they're doing and
> > want
> > >> the
> > >> > dev version. (Also you can specify branches with #gitref in the URL,
> > so
> > >> > there's flexibility there.) But we're not there yet.
> > >> >
> > >> > Braden
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Yes, let's get this cleared up - confused myself.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > 3.1.0 is coincidental and it's temporary for this release
> because
> > I
> > >> > > > wasn't sure where to get the code from and didn't want to
> > compromise
> > >> > > > master or dev. I could have called it something else.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Jesse, I'd advise you to commit to dev. Everything will be
> merged
> > to
> > >> > > > master eventually.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > So to re-iterate the process: right now it's "dev -> master" and
> > >> > > > eventually it will be "master -> (independant) plugin version".
> > >> > > > amarite?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > >> agri...@chromium.org
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >> Plugins are not tagged nor branched along with platforms.
> They
> > are
> > >> > > > releases
> > >> > > > >> completely independently.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> Commit to the "dev" branch always.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > AND FOREVER!!!!!11!!eleventyone!!!
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Seriously, can't we have a stable branch instead? Having the
> dev
> > >> > > > > branch for dev on plugins and having master for dev on
> > platforms is
> > >> > > > > stupid and makes it harder to do work.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
>



-- 
Carlos Santana
<csantan...@gmail.com>

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