Cruel.

The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is Jesse and 
Brian.

This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)

4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay?

- tommy

On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (kam...@google.com) wrote:

Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3> tomorrow  
14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got the  
time zones right).  
Let's organized a hangout tomorrow.  

For the calendars:  
Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET  
Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT  



On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:  

> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing  
>  
> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish as  
> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps)  
> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction  
> called cordova-lib  
> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and  
> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example  
> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing)  
> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more generally  
> useful status and get their own git repos  
>  
> Thoughts?  
>  
>  
>  
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com  
> >wrote:  
>  
> > Brian  
> > yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", "common".  
> > "common-lib"  
> > I think we are on the same page.  
> >  
> > What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as  
> > cordova-lib-plugin-install)"  
> >  
> > no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a convention for  
> > the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and matching  
> > location within repo?  
> >  
> > {  
> > "version": "0.0.1",  
> > "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install",  
> > ..  
> > }  
> >  
> > {  
> > "version": "0.0.1",  
> > "name": "cordova-lib-util-a",  
> > ..  
> > }  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:  
> >  
> > > I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this:  
> > >  
> > > plugman  
> > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install  
> > >  
> > > cordova-cli  
> > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install  
> > >  
> > > cordova-lib  
> > > |-plugin-install  
> > > | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install)  
> > > etc  
> > >  
> > > Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and plugman/cordova-cli  
> > > become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we change/remove the  
> > > already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman.  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com  
> > > >wrote:  
> > >  
> > > > I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work for  
> us  
> > > > since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm  
> pacakge  
> > in  
> > > > the repo then its fine.  
> > > >  
> > > > |cli  
> > > > | '-package.json  
> > > > | '-node_modules/util_a  
> > > > |plugman  
> > > > | '-package.json  
> > > > | '-node_modules/util_a  
> > > >  
> > > > means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo  
> > > > plugman/node_modules/util_a  
> > > > cli/node_modules/util_a  
> > > >  
> > > > or  
> > > > if you have  
> > > > node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a still  
> > > needs  
> > > > to be done for cli and plugman node modules.  
> > > >  
> > > > that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish time to  
> > > > populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman  
> > > >  
> > > > Or maybe I missed something.  
> > > >  
> > > > The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time not  
> > > > necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same repo  
> > > >  
> > > > Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter  
> interesting  
> > > > feedback.  
> > > >  
> > > > --Carlos  
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:  
> > > >  
> > > > > I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky.  
> > (Suggesting  
> > > we  
> > > > > use npm to manage deps.)  
> > > > >  
> > > > > Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour window  
> open  
> > > on  
> > > > > Thu. =(  
> > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky <  
> kam...@google.com  
> > >  
> > > > > wrote:  
> > > > >  
> > > > > > The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right away  
> sounds  
> > > > very  
> > > > > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right after  
> git  
> > > > clone;  
> > > > > > npm install with no extra magic.  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday).  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill <  
> > stevengil...@gmail.com  
> > > >  
> > > > > > wrote:  
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks for  
> > > > sharing  
> > > > > > > Brian!  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io>  
> > wrote:  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle?  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting  
> responses  
> > to  
> > > > add  
> > > > > > to  
> > > > > > > > the discussion:  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.)  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" <  
> agri...@chromium.org  
> > >  
> > > > > wrote:  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it's  
> > > better  
> > > > > off  
> > > > > > > > > as its own hangout anyways.  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd like  
> to  
> > > > > > > > > participate in the discussion.  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky <  
> > > > > kam...@google.com  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > wrote:  
> > > > > > > > > > A short proposal<  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > >  
> > >  
> >  
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit
>   
> > > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > > for  
> > > > > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss it  
> > > during  
> > > > > the  
> > > > > > > > > hangout  
> > > > > > > > > > today. Feel free to comment.  
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > >  
> > > > >  
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > --  
> > > > Carlos Santana  
> > > > <csantan...@gmail.com>  
> > > >  
> > >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > --  
> > Carlos Santana  
> > <csantan...@gmail.com>  
> >  
>  

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