Are you planning to live stream the hangout?
2014-04-17 12:56 GMT-05:00 Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org>: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org> > wrote: > > > Some points of discussion for evaluating one repo vs multiple repos: > > > > - Git Tags > > - Atomic commits > > - Going back in time (checking out points in history) > > - Co-ordinating Pull Requests > > Also: > - Expectations from external contributors > - Transitioning from what we have today > - Overhead of breaking out code into an npm module > > And some specific questions to discuss today: > - should plugman module contain the CLI interface only -- forward calls to > dedicated plugin management npm modules (same as cordova), or should it > itself implement those modules? > - If we start with a single code repo for npm modules: > - do we include cordova and plugman CLI interfaces or just > implementations? > - How do we import module implementation and retain history (git magic) > - node_modules/ folder suggestion from Isaacs on twitter -- protip or joke? > - name for "cordova-lib" -- whats common on npm? > - Testing > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:14 PM, purplecabbage <purplecabb...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Oops, I am okay with anytime tomorrow. > > > How can they not list time zones in the UI? > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Victor Sosa <sosah.vic...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Great!! Thanks Mark > > >> > > >> > > >> 2014-04-16 17:02 GMT-05:00 Mark Koudritsky <kam...@google.com>: > > >> > > >>> I'll arrange a hangout invite link several minutes before the start. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Victor Sosa <sosah.vic...@gmail.com > > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Is this agreed? Are we going to have the meeting on Thursday, April > > 17, > > >>>> 14:00 ET? > > >>>> Who's going to send the hangout invite? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> 2014-04-16 16:40 GMT-05:00 tommy-carlos williams < > to...@devgeeks.org > > >: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Cruel. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is > > Jesse > > >>>>> and Brian. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> This won’t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 4am on Good Friday, here I come. Yay? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> - tommy > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky ( > kam...@google.com) > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3> > > >>>> tomorrow > > >>>>> 14:00 Eastern = 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got > > the > > >>>>> time zones right). > > >>>>> Let's organized a hangout tomorrow. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> For the calendars: > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET > > >>>>> Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we > > publish > > >>>> as > > >>>>>> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps) > > >>>>>> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module > > extraction > > >>>>>> called cordova-lib > > >>>>>> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib > > and > > >>>>>> prefix any module from it with `cordova-lib` (for example > > >>>>>> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing) > > >>>>>> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more > > >>>>> generally > > >>>>>> useful status and get their own git repos > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Thoughts? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana < > > >>> csantan...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Brian > > >>>>>>> yep I agree with directory "cordova-lib", "node_modules", > "common". > > >>>>>>> "common-lib" > > >>>>>>> I think we are on the same page. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> What do you mean by "published"? in "-package.json (published as > > >>>>>>> cordova-lib-plugin-install)" > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a > > >>> convention > > >>>>> for > > >>>>>>> the naming of the modules all starting with "cordova-lib-*" and > > >>>>> matching > > >>>>>>> location within repo? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> { > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1", > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-plugin-install", > > >>>>>>> .. > > >>>>>>> } > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> { > > >>>>>>> "version": "0.0.1", > > >>>>>>> "name": "cordova-lib-util-a", > > >>>>>>> .. > > >>>>>>> } > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> > wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> plugman > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> cordova-cli > > >>>>>>>> '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> cordova-lib > > >>>>>>>> |-plugin-install > > >>>>>>>> | '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install) > > >>>>>>>> etc > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and > > >>>> plugman/cordova-cli > > >>>>>>>> become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we > > >>> change/remove > > >>>>> the > > >>>>>>>> already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana < > > >>>>> csantan...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I was going to suggest node_modules but I think it doesn't work > > >>>> for > > >>>>>> us > > >>>>>>>>> since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm > > >>>>>> pacakge > > >>>>>>> in > > >>>>>>>>> the repo then its fine. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> |cli > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a > > >>>>>>>>> |plugman > > >>>>>>>>> | '-package.json > > >>>>>>>>> | '-node_modules/util_a > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> means "util_a" will be duplicated in repo > > >>>>>>>>> plugman/node_modules/util_a > > >>>>>>>>> cli/node_modules/util_a > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> or > > >>>>>>>>> if you have > > >>>>>>>>> node_module/util_a at the root, npm link ../node_modules/util_a > > >>>>> still > > >>>>>>>> needs > > >>>>>>>>> to be done for cli and plugman node modules. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> that's why I suggested to do the node_modules at dev/publish > > >>> time > > >>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>> populate the both node_modules one for cli and one for plugman > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Or maybe I missed something. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same > > >>> time > > >>>>> not > > >>>>>>>>> necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in > > >>> same > > >>>>> repo > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter > > >>>>>> interesting > > >>>>>>>>> feedback. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> --Carlos > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> I thought the node_modules comment might have been cheeky. > > >>>>>>> (Suggesting > > >>>>>>>> we > > >>>>>>>>>> use npm to manage deps.) > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Crap. Totally forgot about Good Friday. I have a one hour > > >>>> window > > >>>>>> open > > >>>>>>>> on > > >>>>>>>>>> Thu. =( > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky < > > >>>>>> kam...@google.com > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> The tip about placing the deps under node_modules right > > >>> away > > >>>>>> sounds > > >>>>>>>>> very > > >>>>>>>>>>> useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right > > >>>> after > > >>>>>> git > > >>>>>>>>> clone; > > >>>>>>>>>>> npm install with no extra magic. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> This Friday is a holiday in Canada (Good Friday). > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill < > > >>>>>>> stevengil...@gmail.com > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. > > >>> Thanks > > >>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>> sharing > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian! > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux < > > >>> b...@brian.io > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> hey guys could we add Fri to that doodle? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked around for opinions and got some interesting > > >>>>>> responses > > >>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>> add > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the discussion: > > >>>> https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Nothing really negative or positive.) > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, "Andrew Grieve" < > > >>>>>> agri...@chromium.org > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think > > >>>> it's > > >>>>>>>> better > > >>>>>>>>>> off > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> as its own hangout anyways. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd > > >>>>> like > > >>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> participate in the discussion. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky < > > >>>>>>>>>> kam...@google.com > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A short proposal< > > >>> > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acxrJEKAfmE/edit > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's > > >>> discuss > > >>>> it > > >>>>>>>> during > > >>>>>>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangout > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> today. Feel free to comment. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>>>> Carlos Santana > > >>>>>>>>> <csantan...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> Carlos Santana > > >>>>>>> <csantan...@gmail.com> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera > > >>>> IBM Software Engineer > > >>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera > > >> IBM Software Engineer > > >> Guadalajara, Jalisco > > > -- Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera IBM Software Engineer Guadalajara, Jalisco
