I'm fine with 4 pm. The coworking space closes at 5 pm, so Brian and I would have to find another location elsewhere.
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org> wrote: > (Yeah 7pm Friday is more naughty than 4am for those of us with families.) > > I think the original intent was just supposed to be a meet & greet right? > Lets just do it asap and consider formal scheduling with ample planning > only if there are technical topics to discuss. > > It would be nice, though, if Ian could make it, given his recent work on > this. > > -Michal > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Victor Sosa <sosah.vic...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> 4PM PST? That's 6 CST or 7 EST, me thinks. Seems to work for many of us >> On Apr 23, 2014 8:49 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b...@brian.io> wrote: >> >> > 4pm works for me… >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin...@intel.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > > I am in China. 1:00 PM PST means 4:00 AM here :o. >> > > Could you please schedule it a little bit later, say 4:00 or 5:00 PM >> PST? >> > > It will be highly appreciated. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > -ningxin >> > > >> > > From: brian.ler...@gmail.com [mailto:brian.ler...@gmail.com] On Behalf >> > Of >> > > Brian LeRoux >> > > Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 6:10 AM >> > > To: Joe Bowser >> > > Cc: dev@cordova.apache.org; Hu, Ningxin >> > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines >> > > >> > > How does 1:00PST on Friday work for a hangout for everyone? >> > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Joe Bowser <bows...@gmail.com<mailto: >> > > bows...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > > BTW: Here's my PoC for Mozilla so far. It's very broken! >> > > >> > > https://github.com/infil00p/MozillaView >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io<mailto: >> > > b...@brian.io>> wrote: >> > > > So I found a Moz hacker whom can help. what time on Fri do you guys >> > want >> > > to >> > > > do this? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Ian Clelland < >> iclell...@chromium.org >> > > <mailto:iclell...@chromium.org>> >> > > > wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> I've managed to get this up and running now -- great work on this, >> > Joe! >> > > >> >> > > >> Mobilespec runs on my N4, with 10 failing tests: 3 in contacts; 7 in >> > > >> file-transfer. Otherwise, things seem to be working pretty well. >> > > >> >> > > >> I used a new build of Crosswalk, and found that the embedding API >> has >> > > >> changed since the weekend (when Ningxin's patches applied). I've >> > issued >> > > a >> > > >> pull request at >> > > >> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/5for it >> -- >> > > >> >> > > >> I'm not sure if there's a way to keep compatibility with last >> > > >> week's Crosswalk, or if we'd even want to. (Ningxin, if you could >> > take a >> > > >> look at that PR and see if it makes sense, I'd appreciate it) >> > > >> >> > > >> Joe, I also had to patch the default constructor for >> > > XWalkCordovaWebView; >> > > >> it wasn't creating its own client objects, so it got the default >> ones, >> > > and >> > > >> most of the tests were failing because some component of the bridge >> > > wan't >> > > >> working. >> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/4is >> > > >> out >> > > >> for that. >> > > >> >> > > >> Count me in for the hangout -- this is exciting stuff >> > > >> >> > > >> Ian >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io<mailto: >> > > b...@brian.io>> wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> > Yup I'll track em down >> > > >> > On Apr 23, 2014 7:17 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <agri...@chromium.org >> > > <mailto:agri...@chromium.org>> wrote: >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Does anyone have a contact at moz that we could invite? >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Grieve < >> > > agri...@chromium.org<mailto:agri...@chromium.org>> >> > > >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > Depends on their interest level I think. Faster we can get >> this >> > > out >> > > >> > > > the door the better. If we need to delay for geckoview, then I >> > > don't >> > > >> > > > think we should gate on it, just release it after. >> > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:01 AM, Tommy Williams < >> > > to...@devgeeks.org<mailto:to...@devgeeks.org>> >> > > >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > >> More engines, more better... >> > > >> > > >> On 23 Apr 2014 16:32, "Joe Bowser" <bows...@gmail.com >> <mailto: >> > > bows...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> Hey >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> A Hangout would have to happen on Friday at the earliest. >> > It'd >> > > be >> > > >> > > good if >> > > >> > > >>> we could get someone from Mozilla on the hangout as well. I >> > > >> > > >>> haven't >> > > >> > > gotten >> > > >> > > >>> MozillaView (GeckoView with Cordova methods) fully working >> > yet. >> > > >> > > >>> For >> > > >> > > some >> > > >> > > >>> reason it's not rendering on the screen. >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> Ideally it'd be cool to have at least two options when this >> > > >> > > >>> feature >> > > >> > > finally >> > > >> > > >>> lands. >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> What do other people think? >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> Joe >> > > >> > > >>> On 22 Apr 2014 20:06, "Hu, Ningxin" <ningxin...@intel.com >> > > <mailto:ningxin...@intel.com>> wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > Joe, >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > Thanks for your review and merge the PRs. >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > To pluggable webview interest group: >> > > >> > > >>> > Are we OK to setup a hangout this week for initial >> > > introduction >> > > >> > > >>> > and >> > > >> > > >>> > discussion of next steps? >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > Thanks, >> > > >> > > >>> > -ningxin >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > >> > > >>> > > From: Hu, Ningxin [mailto:ningxin...@intel.com<mailto: >> > > ningxin...@intel.com>] >> > > >> > > >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:04 PM >> > > >> > > >>> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org<mailto: >> dev@cordova.apache.org> >> > > >> > > >>> > > Subject: RE: [Android] Refactoring for different engines >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > The PoC is great! Quite excited about the direction! >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > I've sent a PR to update the cordova-crosswalk-engine to >> > > >> > > >>> > > latest >> > > >> > > >>> crosswalk >> > > >> > > >>> > > embedding API. It works with xwalk_core_library at >> > > 6.35.124.0. >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > I've also changed the CordovaWebView interface slightly >> > > >> > > >>> > > (adding >> > > >> > > >>> > getView() API) >> > > >> > > >>> > > to allow XWalkCordovaWebView to composite a XWalkView >> > > instead >> > > >> > > >>> > > of >> > > >> > > >>> > extending >> > > >> > > >>> > > it. It resolves some API naming issues for XWalkView >> case. >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > Please review them at: >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/3 >> > > >> > > >>> > > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/pull/2 >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > Thanks, >> > > >> > > >>> > > -ningxin >> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > >> > > >>> > > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com<mailto: >> > > bows...@gmail.com>] >> > > >> > > >>> > > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:45 AM >> > > >> > > >>> > > > To: dev >> > > >> > > >>> > > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different >> engines >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > Yeah, I'd be cool with setting up a hangout. Everyone >> > > >> > > >>> > > > should >> > > >> > > take a >> > > >> > > >>> > > > look at the PoC, I've basically distilled it down to >> > four >> > > or >> > > >> > five >> > > >> > > >>> > > > classes so far, but with some work, we may be able to >> > get >> > > it >> > > >> > > down to >> > > >> > > >>> > > > three. Due to legacy, we're pretty stuck with the >> > Android >> > > >> > > WebView >> > > >> > > >>> API >> > > >> > > >>> > calls, >> > > >> > > >>> > > but these can probably be modified. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > It'd be good to get Mozilla people on the call as >> well, >> > > >> > > >>> > > > since >> > > >> > > they >> > > >> > > >>> > > > have their WebView as well. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Hu, Ningxin < >> > > >> > > ningxin...@intel.com<mailto:ningxin...@intel.com>> >> > > >> > > >>> > wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > > Hangout would be a good idea. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > > FYI, I will be off next week. How about the week >> after >> > > >> > > >>> > > > > next? >> > > >> > > If it >> > > >> > > >>> > > > > works, please >> > > >> > > >>> > > > feel free to schedule one and count me in. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > > Thanks, >> > > >> > > >>> > > > > -ningxin >> > > >> > > >>> > > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> From: mmo...@google.com<mailto:mmo...@google.com> >> > > [mailto:mmo...@google.com<mailto:mmo...@google.com>] On >> > > >> > Behalf >> > > >> > > Of >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> Michal Mocny >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:39 PM >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> To: dev >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different >> > > engines >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> Would it be alright to set up a Hangout some time >> to >> > > >> > introduce >> > > >> > > >>> > everyone? >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> Joe has been leading the effort here, but there are >> > > other >> > > >> > > cordova >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> contributors for whom this is top priority. It >> would >> > > be >> > > >> > nice >> > > >> > > if >> > > >> > > >>> we >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> could all meet to say hello and make sure we are >> all >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> going >> > > >> > in >> > > >> > > the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> right >> > > >> > > >>> > > > direction. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> Quite exciting! >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> -Michal >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Hu, Ningxin < >> > > >> > > >>> ningxin...@intel.com<mailto:ningxin...@intel.com>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > Joe, thanks for this. I am very excited. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > FYI. Crosswalk team is working on refactoring the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > WebView >> > > >> > > API to >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > support embedding usage better [1]. (Previously >> the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > layer >> > > >> > > API >> > > >> > > >>> was >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > not exposed as public usage). >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > I would like to review the PoC and work with you >> to >> > > get >> > > >> > > >>> Crosswalk >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > fits into the pluggable WebView architecture. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > Thanks, >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > -ningxin >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com >> > <mailto: >> > > bows...@gmail.com>] >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:08 AM >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > To: dev >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for >> different >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > engines >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Hey >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > After debugging, I did some minor updates to >> the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > plugin >> > > >> > > >>> README. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > It >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > should be >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > easier to get this up and running, although >> > there's >> > > >> > still >> > > >> > > the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > issue of >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > after-install >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > hooks and the relative path weirdness with the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > Crosswalk >> > > >> > > >>> > Library itself. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > It still doesn't support the CLI at all, but it >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > should >> > > >> > be >> > > >> > > >>> there >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > with the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > old flow. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Michal Mocny >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto: >> mmo...@chromium.org >> > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > (Sorry Joe, Googlers are down in California >> and >> > > way >> > > >> > > busy. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > Will be back in a week. Super excited about >> > > this, >> > > >> > > though.) >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > -Michal >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Joe Bowser >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:bows...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> Reviving this thread! >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> Can other people look at this, and see >> if/when >> > > we >> > > >> > > should >> > > >> > > >>> > land this? >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> I know that I have to re-write the tests >> > still, >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> but I >> > > >> > > would >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> like some feedback before merging it in. >> > Also, >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> it'd >> > > >> > be >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> super awesome if other people could try and >> > > make a >> > > >> > > WebView >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> based on the interfaces and recommend which >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> methods >> > > >> > > should >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> die. I want to get this released in the >> next >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> month >> > > >> > or >> > > >> > > so, >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> so any time and feedback would be greatly >> > > >> > appreciated. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> Thanks >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Joe Bowser >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> <bows...@gmail.com<mailto:bows...@gmail.com >> >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > Hey, I created the following today to >> track >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > various >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > WebView >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > progresses: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6246 >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > I also have this repo created. The >> > licensing >> > > is >> > > >> > > ugly as >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > all crap, but it's a Proof-Of-Concept: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > If I can get some help getting plugman to >> > just >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > load >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > Crosswalk, it'll >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> look hawt. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > BTW: We should probably get this ready to >> go >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > into >> > > >> > > Android >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > in the next two months and deprecate the >> > > >> > setProperty >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > methods, since all properties should be >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > preferences >> > > >> > > in >> > > >> > > >>> > config.xml >> > > >> > > >>> > > now. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Joe >> Bowser >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > <bows...@gmail.com<mailto: >> bows...@gmail.com >> > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> Perhaps. There would be additional >> benefits >> > > to >> > > >> > this >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> approach, namely fixes being added to >> that >> > > >> > platform >> > > >> > > more >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> quickly. I'll probably take a look at >> that >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> once I >> > > >> > > have >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> Crosswalk >> > > >> > > >>> > > > finalized. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Brian >> > LeRoux >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> <b...@brian.io<mailto:b...@brian.io>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> this is great stuff >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> do we think it may be possible to bring >> in >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> amazon >> > > >> > > >>> fireos >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> stuff >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> eventually >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> too? >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Joe >> Bowser >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> <bows...@gmail.com<mailto: >> > bows...@gmail.com >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> BTW: I committed it in my repo, not the >> > > main >> > > >> > > Apache >> > > >> > > >>> one. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Joe >> > Bowser >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com<mailto: >> > > bows...@gmail.com>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Hey >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I just committed some code based on >> > their >> > > >> > > WebView >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > modifications that allows you to >> choose >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > your >> > > >> > > >>> renderer >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > in the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > config file >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > with this: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > <preference name="webView" >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> value="org.apache.cordova.engine.crosswalk.XWalkCordo >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > va >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Web >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > View >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > " /> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > You currently have to copy over the >> > *.pak >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > file >> > > >> > > and >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > the jsapi from a Crosswalk Example >> > > project >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > to >> > > >> > > get >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > this to work. The next thing that >> I'm >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > going >> > > >> > to >> > > >> > > do >> > > >> > > >>> is >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > figure out how to write this as a >> > plugin >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > and >> > > >> > > have it >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > install on a default >> > > >> > > >>> > > > project. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Also, right now the bridge doesn't >> seem >> > > to >> > > >> > > work, and >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I don't know why exactly. That being >> > > said, >> > > >> > the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> fact >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > that I can choose which version of >> > > >> > > Chrome/Chromium >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I'm running with >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> a >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > single XML preference is HUGE. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > There's definitely a lot more work >> that >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > needs >> > > >> > > to be >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > done, but as >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> long >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > as we have something that we can fit >> > into >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > interface, we should >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> be >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > able to put in things like GeckoView >> or >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > other >> > > >> > > third >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > party >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > renderers. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > The nightmare of being stuck with >> > > bullshit >> > > >> > > WebView >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > bugs may soon be over. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, >> Michal >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Mocny >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto: >> > > mmo...@chromium.org>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> > > >>> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordo >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> va >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> -an >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> droi >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> d >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> First patch they landed, which >> claims >> > to >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> have >> > > >> > > min >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> viable xwalk >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> webview: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> >> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordova-andro >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> id >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> /co >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> mmit >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> /a04dedeb0204e7542d190312c6ae70c795a26e04 >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM, >> > Michal >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> Mocny >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> <mmo...@chromium.org<mailto: >> > > mmo...@chromium.org> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> I haven't looked yet, but did you >> > see: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> https://crosswalk-project.org/#wiki/crosswalk-cordo >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> va >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> -an >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> droi >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> d >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> ? >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:20 PM, >> > Andrew >> > > >> > > Grieve < >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> agri...@chromium.org<mailto: >> > > agri...@chromium.org> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> First - very excited that you're >> > > working >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> on >> > > >> > > this! >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Had a quick look. Not sure there's >> > > much >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to >> > > >> > be >> > > >> > > >>> > gleaned >> > > >> > > >>> > > yet. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Once >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> you >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> start >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> in on hooking up x-walk's webview >> I >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> think >> > > >> > it >> > > >> > > will >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> become more >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> obvious >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> what >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> the interface should look like. >> > E.g., >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> does >> > > >> > > x-walk >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> even have the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> concept of >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> ChromeClient vs WebViewClient vs >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> WebView? >> > > >> > > Also >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> unsure whether the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> class >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> should extend android.View as well >> > as >> > > >> > > implement >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> our >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > interface. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> E.g. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> alternative is to have a >> "getView()" >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> method >> > > >> > > on >> > > >> > > >>> the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > interface. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> Might >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> help >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> cut down on file sizes, and API >> > > surface, >> > > >> > but >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> again, I'm not too >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> sure. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> I've been pretty hesitant to touch >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> existing >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed members >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> (e.g. the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> public fields you were referring >> to) >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> since >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> touching anything >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> public >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> could >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> break plugins. That said, maybe >> now >> > > is a >> > > >> > good >> > > >> > > >>> time >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> to @deprecate >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> a >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> bunch >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> of >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> them and either replace them with >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> getters, >> > > >> > or >> > > >> > > >>> just >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> declare them >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> to be >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> not >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> exposed to plugins. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, >> Joe >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> Bowser >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> <bows...@gmail.com<mailto: >> > > bows...@gmail.com>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> wrote: >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > So, after looking at the >> Crosswalk >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > code >> > > >> > > again, >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I've decided to >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> take >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> a >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > quick stab at making things >> > > pluggable. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I >> > > >> > > don't >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > have a lot to >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> show >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> for >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > it, but with the help of Eclipse >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > (which >> > > >> > is >> > > >> > > why >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > the generated interfaces look so >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > screwed >> > > >> > > up), I >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > managed to create some >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> interfaces >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> so >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > we can start shoehorning in >> other >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > browser >> > > >> > > >>> > renderers. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> >> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/tree/pluggable_w >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> eb >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> vie >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> w >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I'm going to probably start with >> > > >> > Crosswalk, >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > because it's >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> probably >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > most mature primary candidate in >> > the >> > > >> > > Android >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Third-Party >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> WebView >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > thing, and I'm pretty sure the >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > GeckoView >> > > >> > > will >> > > >> > > >>> be >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > happening >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> shortly >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > after. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I don't know how this would work >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > w.r.t. >> > > >> > > the CLI >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > or our >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> workflow at >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > all, but at the moment, I really >> > > just >> > > >> > want >> > > >> > > to >> > > >> > > >>> at >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > least start >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> to have >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > some headway towards 4.x and >> > > PhoneGap >> > > >> > day. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > What do people think of this so >> > far? >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > I'm >> > > >> > > going >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > to try to clean >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> things >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > up a bit, since we've definitely >> > > done >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > a >> > > >> > > lot of >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > things that >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> would >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> make >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > first year CS profs freak the >> hell >> > > out >> > > >> > > (i.e. >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > public members in >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> public >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > objects w.r.t. PluginManager). >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Thoughts? >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > Joe >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> > >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >>> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > >>> > >> > > >> > > >>> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >>
