Sweet!

Ray: I think `www and config.xml crap` is a great way to say it ;)

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:53 PM, Mefire O. <ommen...@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Michal, there is a 'mass save' feature for both platforms and plugins on
> the way. They will allow the saving of already installed platforms and
> plugins respectively : 'cordova platform save' and 'cordova plugin save'.
>
> The platform's one is currently in code review:
> https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/170
>
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> ________________________________
> From: Michal Mocny<mailto:mmo...@chromium.org>
> Sent: ‎3/‎3/‎2015 9:00 AM
> To: dev<mailto:dev@cordova.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Some thoughts/questions on the new --save feature
>
> Raymond, you should just include your config.xml in the repo along with
> your www.  It will be imported as part of --copy-from and should (I haven't
> tested!) auto-restore plugins with this new feature.
>
> As for default not --save, this is mostly for npm compatibility, but also
> because we decided to auto-restore on prepare (unlike npm which require
> manual install).  This way, the new feature is 100% opt-in for users of the
> existing tools, but you automatically use the feature if you clone a
> project that is using the feature.  I think thats a good balance.
>
> Also, if you forget to --save plugins, you can re-run the add command with
> --save without hitting the network.  (But I don't think there is a cordova
> plugin --save to just add all installed plugins, we could consider adding
> that).
>
> -Michal
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > 1) I can see the logic there, but it seems like folks would want to
> > save so much, overwhelmingly so, that it makes sense to not follow the
> > expectation here? Also, would our "typical" user be more familiar with
> > Node and be confused by this?
> >
> > 2) I know about the link too, my issue is more about what I (I being
> > the person sharing code) would publish. Right now I share *just* the
> > www folder so folks can --copy-from or link, whatever. But with this
> > new feature, I'd have to publish the entire project.
> >
> > That's what I'm asking about - does that make sense?
> >
> > To be clear, I'm not saying we need a magical solution for this, as I
> > said, my use case is *not* the norm. I'm mainly just wondering if
> > there is perhaps some elegant solution to including a) a small amount
> > of files and b) easy setup for folks using my demos.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Steven Gill <stevengil...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > 1) I would say it is not autosave by default so we follow node/npm
> style.
> > > You have to be explicit when saving dependencies to node projects.
> > Example
> > > "npm install browserify --save".
> > >
> > > 2) I believe their is a --link command to point to your www for your
> > > Cordova project to use. This isn't a perfect solution for your use case
> > but
> > > it better than manually copying. Others who are more familiar with this
> > can
> > > hopefully elaborate.
> > > On Mar 3, 2015 6:42 AM, "Victor Sosa" <sosah.vic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1 on Raymond's idea, I also why --save isn't default. When talking
> > about
> > >> SCMs, the best practice for Cordova applications is to share them with
> > no
> > >> platforms nor plugins, so each time a developer checks out the project
> > from
> > >> the repo, he/she will need to add the appropriate plugins and desired
> > >> platform. Why not making the developers life easier with this --save
> > flag?
> > >>
> > >> 2015-03-03 8:27 GMT-06:00 Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com>:
> > >>
> > >> > 1) Is there any reason why --save isn't true by default? It would
> seem
> > >> > that in a majority of cases I'd want to save my plugins to the
> > >> > configuration file. I definitely see times when I would *not* want
> to
> > >> > do so, but it seems like that would be the minority of cases.
> > >> >
> > >> > 2) This is probably an edge case, but...
> > >> >
> > >> > One of the things I do when building Cordova examples is put up my
> www
> > >> > folder in a repo. My thinking is that my readers can grab the repo,
> > >> > and then make a new project and use --copy-from to grab the folder.
> > >> > This gives them my www crap and lets them go crazy.
> > >> >
> > >> > For plugins, I've been using a readme file to tell users what to do.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'd like to make use of this new feature to persist plugins and save
> > >> > users at least one step. (In theory they would just need to add the
> > >> > platform they want to test on.)
> > >> >
> > >> > But in order to do so, I can't just ship the www folder, I have to
> > >> > ship an entire Cordova project. That isn't a big deal per se, but it
> > >> > does mean they would need to copy a folder manually, possibly modify
> > >> > the app id, and then start working on the assets.
> > >> >
> > >> > Given that I think my use case is probably pretty minor, is there
> some
> > >> > thought as to how one could distribute sample code and make use of
> > >> > this feature?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
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> > >> >
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> > >> > Twitter: raymondcamden
> > >> >
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