Thanks Brian, Steven - missed these in Gmail. Will try to get some
done this week - even if ugly.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
> go for it!
>
> https://docs.npmjs.com/misc/coding-style
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there any objection then to me doing some rewrites, and if so,
>> anyone know offhand the style npm is using?
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Brian LeRoux <b...@brian.io> wrote:
>> > Ray: you have commit rights. =)
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcam...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Do we have a rough idea of how soon we will see the improvements on the
>> NPM
>> >> side? If it is 1-2 weeks, then I don't think it is a huge big deal, but
>> if
>> >> longer than that I think we have a problem with our uses. Right now
>> there
>> >> are *no* docs if they follow the links from docs.cordova.io. We all
>> know
>> >> where the docs can be found, and I blogged on it too, but for new users
>> >> this is not ideal, and is pretty critical I think.
>> >>
>> >> Query - if the issue now is that the Markdown used by core plugins
>> doesn't
>> >> match the Markdown supported by npm, instead of waiting for npm to fix
>> it,
>> >> couldn't we just do the manual grunt work ourselves? I'd happily try to
>> hit
>> >> one of the files myself if so.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Kerri Shotts <kerrisho...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Jörg,
>> >> >
>> >> > I disagree: the move to NPM was a good move. It might not be perfect
>> yet
>> >> > (far from it), but NPM is apparently moving forward with making search
>> >> and
>> >> > such easy. The description is an issue, yes, but that’s also being
>> worked
>> >> > out (and only applies to core plugins — third party plugins should be
>> >> just
>> >> > fine). Furthermore, it means that Cordova is no longer responsible for
>> >> > maintaining a repository, which quickly becomes nontrivial when you
>> have
>> >> a
>> >> > lot of people hitting it. NPM has far more resources in this regard
>> than
>> >> > does Cordova.
>> >> >
>> >> > That said, I’m also all for implementing a plugin page like Gulp,
>> Yeoman,
>> >> > etc. do, even if NPM gets better searching and the like, simply
>> because,
>> >> as
>> >> > you say, it gives an overview that can lead to inspiration. I prefer
>> >> using
>> >> > Gulp’s list or Yeoman’s list over NPM’s site, but I’m also glad that
>> NPM
>> >> is
>> >> > being used to manage the packages. Nearly everything else I’m doing
>> is on
>> >> > NPM now anyway, so it works out well for my workflow that Cordova’s
>> >> plugins
>> >> > are now too. (Never mind that the platforms and the CLI have been
>> there
>> >> for
>> >> > some time.)
>> >> >
>> >> > This is completely separate from your issue with “good plugins”. NPM
>> or
>> >> > Cordova’s registry will make no difference to that — you’re relying
>> upon
>> >> > the skills and goodwill of third party developers to make plugins for
>> >> you,
>> >> > and they will all be of varying quality with varying documentation.
>> >> That’s
>> >> > a problem with Gulp, Yeoman, and every other tool that allows
>> plugins. As
>> >> > to verification with versions and platforms, that’s always going to
>> be up
>> >> > to the plugin owner, not the repository. I don’t really see any way
>> >> around
>> >> > that as it would always be hit or miss with third party plugins.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On May 30, 2015 at 4:49:08 PM, Joerg Holz (h...@hamburg.de) wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I’m a cordova developer.
>> >> >
>> >> > The idea to move the plugins to npm was a very bad one. No
>> professional
>> >> > description, no professional searching.
>> >> >
>> >> > From a developer view, there is a need to have an overview off all
>> >> plugins
>> >> > - just for inspiration There is a need to have a filter for platforms,
>> >> the
>> >> > maintainer, last update, … and the most important and complicated
>> one: Is
>> >> > the plugin checked, checked for platform, checked for version?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Have you ever tried to bring a three wheel selector in a cordova
>> >> > application? That is a great job. Sorry for posting a screenshot, but
>> >> this
>> >> > simple wheeler took me one week for working on iOS, Android and
>> Windows.
>> >> >
>> >> > I tried every plugin, every modification of every plugin, I split the
>> >> > platforms … in the end I used mobiscroll and rewrote it for my needs.
>> >> Just
>> >> > for selecting a timespan.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Cordova is great, the most important job for the future is: Let give
>> the
>> >> > people the power of cordova by good plugins.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Jörg
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> --
>> >>
>> ===========================================================================
>> >> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>> >>
>> >> Email : raymondcam...@gmail.com
>> >> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>> >> Twitter: raymondcamden
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
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