survey looks great, yes I agree let's send it now to see how much data we collect by F2F time frame.
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 9:22 PM Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com> wrote: > Looks like the URL had a dot at the end. Here is the URL that worked for me > > https://apachecordovabot.typeform.com/to/BCc5co > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhi...@microsoft.com] > Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 3:21 PM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova > developer survey > > Thanks for all the input! Here's the final public facing URL: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fapachecordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c86396d50c82d42e0359b08d2cdd34a0d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=9k5%2b3HCFfW%2fCVjQMMmPBSy71bM3lWMQJQifwyhF5dTs%3d > > It will be great to get some of this data before the F2F meeting. Let's > all tweet about it, post it on slack etc. > > In couple of days we can see if we can want to make more tweaks to this > and then put out a v2 on the cordova website as a banner. > > -Nikhil > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrey Kurdumov [mailto:kant2...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:42 PM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova > developer survey > > Would be good separate 4.a question "Documentation for the Cordova > platforms and CLI" on two separate questions. > Since I have different opinion on both of CLI and platform docs. CLI I > would range on the 8 or 9 9 (nobody perfect), but platform docs are closer > to 4 (need significant improvements) for me. > Both are very strong feeling, and I have to or average results, or select > which part is more important for me. > > 2015-10-04 11:04 GMT+06:00 Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com>: > > > Yeah I like "released" > > > > Yeah no need to get usage info on this survey now. > > > > - Carlos > > Sent from my iPhone 6s > > > > > On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Great feedback, you're right, I was thinking totally app-store-centric. > > > How about 'released' instead of 'published'? > > > > > > I'm not sure if usage info is relevant here, it is interesting no > > > doubt, but I think the goal of this survey was to get info on making > > > the app developer experience better. There is a multitude of > > > non-cordova factors that affect usage; (price, design, app type, > > > market competition, ... ) Personally I think usage stats are > > > probably more relevant in the app showcase pages, or in another usage > targeted survey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My team is hiring! > > > @purplecabbage > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data= > > > 01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7e942 > > > 7%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2fGKr5eM > > > EdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d > > > > > >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Carlos Santana > > >> <csantan...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be > > >> good to use a different word than "published". I personally > > >> associate that with > > a > > >> App Store on quick read > > >> > > >> Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they > > >> have them in production internally because they are business to > > >> employee or business to business. > > >> > > >> What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently > > >> being actively user by users" or another term to be inclusive of > > >> apps not > > being > > >> distributed by public store > > >> > > >> Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis? > > >> Is that important to know how many users is the app being used by? > > >> Like I > > have > > >> one app but that one app being downloaded 1,000 monthly and used by > > 50,000 > > >> users :-) > > >> > > >> - Carlos > > >> Sent from my iPhone 6s > > >> > > >>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I was able to update the survey. > > >>> > > >>> 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing > '?' > > >>> 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end" > > >>> 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use? > > >>> 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question. > > >>> > > >>> Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one: > > >>> How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app? > > >>> I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as > > >>> I > > think > > >>> it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..' > > >>> conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free > > version. > > >>> > > >>> I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have > > >>> published > > >> more > > >>> than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot, > > >>> but > > I > > >>> could be wrong. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> My team is hiring! > > >>> @purplecabbage > > >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&dat > > >>> a=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7 > > >>> e9427%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2f > > >>> GKr5eMEdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d > > >>> > > >>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N > > >>> <panar...@microsoft.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the > > >> credentials > > >>>> in SVN, right ? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <purplecabb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes. > > >>>>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> My team is hiring! > > >>>>> @purplecabbage > > >>>> > > >> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01 > > %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c > > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB > > cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson < > > >> dave.c.john...@gmail.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey > > >>>>>> sent > > >> out. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a > > friend > > >> of > > >>>>>> colleague" > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse > > >>>>>>> <purplecabb...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Yep, I'll do that. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> My team is hiring! > > >>>>>>> @purplecabbage > > >>>> > > >> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01 > > %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c > > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB > > cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N < > > >> panar...@microsoft.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? > > Can I > > >>>>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This > > >>>>>>>> is at > > >>>> > > >> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=0 > > 1%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7 > > c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD > > %2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d > > >> , > > >>>> and you can login via Google - > > >>>>>> apachecordova...@gmail.com. > > >>>>>>>> Password in the SVN repo. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabb...@gmail.com] > > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM > > >>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - > > >>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Something like this? > > >>>>>>>> === > > >>>>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, > > >>>>>>>> check > > >>>> all > > >>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>> apply : > > >>>>>>>> Battery StatusBar Camera > > >>>>>>>> Console Contacts > > >>>>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer) Device Orientation > > >>>>>>>> (Compass) Dialogs FileSystem File Transfer Geolocation > > >>>>>>>> Globalization InAppBrowser Media Media Capture Network > > >>>>>>>> Information (Connection) Splashscreen > > >>>> Vibration > > >>>>>>>> StatusBar > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party > > >>>>>>>> plugin > > >>>> that > > >>>>>> you > > >>>>>>>> use all the time? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> My team is hiring! > > >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage > > >>>> > > >> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01 > > %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c > > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5 > > iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N < > > >>>> panar...@microsoft.com> > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback > > >>>>>>>>> from > > the > > >>>>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom. > > About > > >>>>>> the > > >>>>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcam...@gmail.com] > > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM > > >>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - > > >>>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana < > > >>>>>> csantan...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins > area. > > >>>>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you > > >>>> problems, > > >>>>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which > > >>>>>>>>>> plugin you > > >>>>>> are > > >>>>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code > > >>>>>>>>>> (i.e push notifications, bluetooth, oauth) > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser > > >>>>>>>>>> <bows...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change it > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>> general > > >>>>>>>>>>> feedback. Spinning it so negative will just get negative > > >>>>>> responses > > >>>>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that. > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N > > >>>>>>>>>>> <panar...@microsoft.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about it > > >>>> myself. > > >>>>>> Do > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question ? The reason I > > >>>> kept it > > >>>>>>>>>>>> open ended was > > >>>>>>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What do you want to > > >>>> change it > > >>>>>>> to > > >>>>>>>> ? > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bows...@gmail.com] > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM > > >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - > > >>>>>> Cordova > > >>>>>>>>>>>> developer survey > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended. The first question > > >>>>>> shouldn't > > >>>>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get to talk about how > > >>>>>>>>>>>> they > > >>>> hate > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever. We get > > >>>>>>>>>>>> enough > > >>>> of > > >>>>>>>>>>>> that already. What we should do with this survey is try > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and narrow it down to actionable things that we can > > >>>>>>>>>>>> actually > > >>>> change. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux > > >>>>>>>>>>>> <b...@brian.io> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't hurt > > >>>> to do > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses too seriously or > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> we will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep 29, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015 at > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions on this mailing list > > >>>> about > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues they have with Cordova. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to Face meeting, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it would be interesting to try to get some > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> data > > >>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> when > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To this end, as > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a first attempt, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could send out to developers > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> who > > >>>>>> use > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here at > > >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f% > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fapa > > >>>> > > >> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typef > > orm.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa2 > > 08d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gMdI86p5L%2f > > fS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d > > >>>>>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ra > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> si%40 > > >>>> > > >> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data= > > 01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d% > > 7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1M7V4oFWEo8a8cg6WmVxwj59G > > ALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d > > >>>>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f1 > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41af9 > > >>>>>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OC > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FG68P > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apache...@gmail.com<mailto:apache...@gmail.com> > > >>>> credentials > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> committer > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions or add more questions > > >>>> directly. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand how they use Cordova, and > > >>>> what > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they like > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing this ? - would this > > >>>> be > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful > > >>>>>>>>> ? > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we would like to ask our > > >>>>>> developers ? > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> > > ====================================================================== > > >>>>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at > > >>>>>>>>> IBM > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcam...@gmail.com Blog : > > >>>>>> > > >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamde > > >> n.c > > >>>>>>>>> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com > > >>>>>> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c > > >>>>>> > > 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje > > >>>>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d > > >>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden > > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> ---- > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>> ---- > > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > >>>> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > >> > > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cordova.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cordova.apache.org >
