we have issues.cordova.io that right now it just redirects to jira, so
maybe we should have a web page were we list all the repos instead?

2018-08-02 16:51 GMT+02:00 <raphine...@gmail.com>:

> There is much I don't like about JIRA and in general I prefer GitHub
> issues. However, there's issues that did came up during previous
> discussions of this topic, and that have no proper solution that I know of
>
>    - How do people know in which of the numerous Cordova repos to create
>    their issues (especially bad for tooling)
>    - How to manage meta-issues that concern more than one repo (Can we
>    productively use whatever tools GitHub provides here, or will we have to
>    get permission from INFRA for every little thing we do?)
>
> I fear that if we blindly rush into this, all we will get is an even more
> fragmented landscape of issues and discussions
>
> Am Do., 2. Aug. 2018 um 16:34 Uhr schrieb Jan Piotrowski <
> piotrow...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Decision making for Apache projects is described here:
> > https://community.apache.org/committers/decisionMaking.html
> >
> > So to make it official:
> > I hereby declare that I will start implementing the stuff from my
> > initial email if nobody objects in the next 72 hours (meaning: before
> > next Monday). After that I will create the INFRA issue.
> >
> > The other, preliminary taks can already be started - I did by creating
> > 2 cordova-docs issues that I already linked. For the rest of b) I will
> > probably start another mailing list thread.
> >
> > 2018-08-02 15:35 GMT+02:00 Chris Brody <chris.br...@gmail.com>:
> > > What will it take to take care of a) Enable GitHub issues on all
> > > repositories via INFRA ticket?
> > >
> > > I think this is needed really badly. There are way too many cases of
> > > questions and issues being raised in the wrong place, lost in diverse
> > > discussion forums, or not even asked at all.
> > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:59 AM Bryan Ellis <ellis.br...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> Not sure if (f) was a task, as in to find a way to integrate GH and
> > Slack, but it does exist.
> > >>
> > >> https://slack.github.com/ <https://slack.github.com/>
> > >>
> > >> It covers a lot including new commits, pr, new issues, code reviews,
> > and more.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > On Aug 1, 2018, at 22:22, Jan Piotrowski <piotrow...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Another one:
> > >> >
> > >> > f) Find and activate way for Github issue (and PR) updates to be
> > >> > posted so Slack #issues
> > >> >
> > >> > 2018-07-31 18:14 GMT+02:00 Jan Piotrowski <piotrow...@gmail.com>:
> > >> >> The npm forum solves a very different problem for npm - they had
> too
> > >> >> much noise in Github issues because of the project's popularity.
> Too
> > >> >> much popularity is not one of Cordova's problems ;)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Many uses of cordova-discuss will be able to move to the individual
> > >> >> project repositories issues, maybe we can even think about getting
> > rid
> > >> >> of it. Good thing to keep in mind after everything is migrated.
> > >> >> The mailing list can be used much more to just point people to a
> > >> >> specific issue (as I also did in my original mail here) where the
> > >> >> actual discussion will happen.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -J
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 2018-07-31 17:39 GMT+02:00 Chris Brody <chris.br...@gmail.com>:
> > >> >>> +1 (+100) for migrating away from JIRA issues
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> npm took a different approach that I am starting to really like:
> > using
> > >> >>> npm.community (Discourse) with GitHub login for issues and
> > discussions
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> solves another major problem since I don't like mail list for
> > >> >>> discussing issues and cordova-discuss has proven to be such an
> > >> >>> unpopular repo
> > >> >>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 10:54 AM Jan Piotrowski <
> > piotrow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> While our repositories are already fully on GitHub [1], our
> issues
> > >> >>>> mainly still live in JIRA. We previously decided this should be
> > >> >>>> changed [2] so issues live with code.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> We also did some first switches that were pretty successful:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/issues
> > >> >>>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-windows/issues
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> So I suggest we move forward with the rest. Here is a list of
> > stuff to do:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> a) Enable GitHub issues on all repositories via INFRA ticket
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> b) Define and update Contributor documentation:
> > >> >>>>  * Contributor guidelines
> > >> >>>>    -
> > https://cordova.apache.org/contribute/contribute_guidelines.html
> > >> >>>>    - https://cordova.apache.org/contribute/
> > >> >>>>    - https://cordova.apache.org/contribute/issues.html
> > >> >>>>    -
> > https://github.com/apache/cordova-coho/search?l=Markdown&q=JIRA
> > >> >>>>    => https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/issues/861
> > >> >>>>  * Issue template(s)
> > >> >>>>  * Pull Request template(s)
> > >> >>>>  * Github labels / issue triaging documentation
> > >> >>>>  * Usage of GitHub merge functionality
> > >> >>>>  * READMEs of all repositories
> > >> >>>>  * Prepare all these changes as PRs that can merged when a) is
> > taken care of.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> c) Define and document handling of security issues
> > >> >>>>    => https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/issues/860
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> d) Define and execute issue migration from JIRA to GitHub
> > >> >>>> e) Define and execute "disabling" of JIRA (if applies)
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Related:
> > >> >>>> - Check if ICLA documentation is correct and fix if necessary
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Any input or objections?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I expect d) and e) to require some more discussion and planning,
> > but
> > >> >>>> think it is ok to just leave this to be done later after
> everything
> > >> >>>> else was taken care of. Agree?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Did I miss any documents for b) that will have to be updated?
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Best regards,
> > >> >>>> Jan
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> PS:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> For future reference, the links I collected while researching the
> > >> >>>> previous work done and current state:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> [1] Move repositories to Github / Gitbox for Apache Cordova:
> > >> >>>>
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/af0ec86818674bd1a8c4a9372685a9
> ae8e6200c478ad8e859606f3a3@%3Cdev.cordova.apache.org%3E
> > >> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-14347
> > >> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-14398
> > >> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-14399
> > >> >>>>
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/23e927ad58441685a3fb3bbfe8e4d9
> f52369afa24e6e57f74b247d17@%3Cdev.cordova.apache.org%3E
> > >> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-14994
> > >> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-14815
> > >> >>>>
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/649d83cd05ae7029327cd4734ca422
> 82426c5564b291257da1b8b75e@%3Cdev.cordova.apache.org%3E
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> [2] Migrate Jira issues over to Github:
> > >> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-13157
> > >> >>>>
> > https://github.com/audreyso/cordova-discuss/blob/
> 6bece4125d389036461e25036e51e0fdfd712567/proposals/GithubMigration.md
> > >> >>>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-discuss/pull/75
> > >> >>>>
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a992eaf62c8475a4576784ca3f9d8a
> cc575220f0c53e6016bc4455e7@%3Cdev.cordova.apache.org%3E
> > >> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16503
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
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