Thanks Dave, all of that is good to know.
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From: Dave Fisher [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 10:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: change if wiki ?
Hi -
FWIW - I still have Confluence Admin rights left over from setting up AOO
cwikis.
On Jan 18, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
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> My concern for the current wiki is it appears to be totally captive and
> anything committed to it lies in that embrace forever. (The export functions
> are to limited forms and it is not clear they are a good way to produce
> content while working off-line.)
I'll note that on the Tools dropdown there is a view storage format that gives
a window to grab html.
<orcmid>
In my case, a better tool for grabbing HTML is Microsoft OneNote, which puts
it into an editable form.
That doesn't help much when it comes to contributing to the Wiki though.
Although the tool says "source," it presents it in a browser Windows in
rich form,
not the underlying source.
</ormid>
There is also an Export to Word and PDF. These can be controlled with templates.
There is also a Source Editor if you want to fiddle with the HTML directly.
<orcmid>
How do I get to the Source Editor? I must have missed it.
(I don't think any of this satisfies my itch to be able to work off-line
and then commit, which I can do with any flavor of web site under ASF
SVN.
</orcmid>
> Confluence authoring is apparently required to be in a browser (or via the
> REST API, which is too much of a reach). I would love to find out that is
> not the case, but I have failed to determine what the plaintext form of text
> submission is, and the help button is not useful in knowing otherwise. It
> appears from the documentation that the canonical form of the content is XML
> and can be used to backup and restore pages.
You can put in html directly.
<orcmid>
I really don't want to be entering HTML directly through a
browser or web connection. I have the feeling that the
HTML is not shown once entered, it is always echoed back
in rich form. Makes me crazy.
I would prefer a plaintext markup language, whether markdown
or any of the wikiText formats that are around already. I
recognize that is not entry level stuff, and a rich-form
editor might be preferable. It is just a problem when the
rich form is the only option.
I do have good plaintext editing tools and also HTML
editing tools for off-line use. Most wiki-like sites
have good review before commit support too.
The stuff that is hard to do in HTML is add wiki links
and create wiki-recognized anchors. I'd have to learn
exactly what the Confluence auto-completes do, I suppose.
</orcmid>
>
> I guess this means proceed at your own risk.
>
> 3. Cutting the Knot?
>
> So I started using the JIRA as a way to capture ideas and notes until there
> is better understanding of Atlassian Confluence and the Gliffy Confluence
> Plugin.
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I am comfortable with whatever workflow works for you.
<orcmid>
Thanks. I will muddle along for now.
Since I work on more than one project
(at ASF and elsewhere), having this
particular Wiki as yet another tool
to learn where nothing I already have
at hand works really threw me, as
you can see.
</orcmid>
Regards,
Dave
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