On 18 January 2015 at 20:02, Dennis E. Hamilton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave, all of that is good to know. > > -- replying below to -- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 10:23 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: change if wiki ? > > Hi - > > FWIW - I still have Confluence Admin rights left over from setting up AOO > cwikis. > > On Jan 18, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > [ ... ] > > My concern for the current wiki is it appears to be totally captive and > anything committed to it lies in that embrace forever. (The export > functions are to limited forms and it is not clear they are a good way to > produce content while working off-line.) > > I'll note that on the Tools dropdown there is a view storage format that > gives a window to grab html. > <orcmid> > In my case, a better tool for grabbing HTML is Microsoft OneNote, which > puts it into an editable form. > That doesn't help much when it comes to contributing to the Wiki though. > Although the tool says "source," it presents it in a browser Windows > in rich form, > not the underlying source. > </ormid> > > There is also an Export to Word and PDF. These can be controlled with > templates. > > There is also a Source Editor if you want to fiddle with the HTML directly. > <orcmid> > How do I get to the Source Editor? I must have missed it. > (I don't think any of this satisfies my itch to be able to work off-line > and then commit, which I can do with any flavor of web site under ASF > SVN. > </orcmid> > > > Confluence authoring is apparently required to be in a browser (or via > the REST API, which is too much of a reach). I would love to find out that > is not the case, but I have failed to determine what the plaintext form of > text submission is, and the help button is not useful in knowing otherwise. > It appears from the documentation that the canonical form of the content is > XML and can be used to backup and restore pages. > > You can put in html directly. > <orcmid> > I really don't want to be entering HTML directly through a > browser or web connection. I have the feeling that the > HTML is not shown once entered, it is always echoed back > in rich form. Makes me crazy. > I would prefer a plaintext markup language, whether markdown > or any of the wikiText formats that are around already. I > recognize that is not entry level stuff, and a rich-form > editor might be preferable. It is just a problem when the > rich form is the only option. > I do have good plaintext editing tools and also HTML > editing tools for off-line use. Most wiki-like sites > have good review before commit support too. > The stuff that is hard to do in HTML is add wiki links > and create wiki-recognized anchors. I'd have to learn > exactly what the Confluence auto-completes do, I suppose. > </orcmid> > > > > > > I guess this means proceed at your own risk. > > > > 3. Cutting the Knot? > > > > So I started using the JIRA as a way to capture ideas and notes until > there is better understanding of Atlassian Confluence and the Gliffy > Confluence Plugin. > [ ... ] > > I am comfortable with whatever workflow works for you. > > <orcmid> > Thanks. I will muddle along for now. > Since I work on more than one project > (at ASF and elsewhere), having this > particular Wiki as yet another tool > to learn where nothing I already have > at hand works really threw me, as > you can see. > </orcmid> > I too prefer offline work. I found these 3 links, they may solve some of your problems: https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Importing+a+Word+Document+into+Confluence https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Confluence+Storage+Format https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Importing+Pages+from+Disk have fun jan i > > Regards, > Dave > > [ ... ] > >
