On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 13:46, Jan Lehnardt <j...@apache.org> wrote: > On 17 Aug 2010, at 16:23, Andrus Adamchik wrote: >> On Aug 17, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Sebastian Cohnen wrote: >> >>> Developers (no matter if commercial or not) are part of the community like >>> everybody else, IMHO. >> >> Of course they are. This issue is about the concept of "hats". A commercial >> developer working on an Apache project on a company time effectively wears 2 >> hats - an individual and an employee. Apache is an org of individuals not >> companies, so here we expect you to be with your "individual hat" on, e.g. >> when making development decisions, writing a Board report and otherwise >> interacting with the community. This is a fine line to walk to be sure, but >> so far it worked out well for the majority of the projects. > > My (Apache hat) reasoning for okaying these entries was that we did mention > other significant extra-project news in the past. The Canonical/Ubuntu > adoption was big news, as was the publication of the O'Reilly book. I > classified these two under the same umbrella.
Yup. Both big items. We've seen plenty of book announcements, speech acceptances, major deployments, etc in the reports. They *are* fair game, and I don't think anybody is asking to avoid stuff like that. What struck me about this particular report was "$x is doing $y with CouchDB" statements, and I think "great. but that is how they are *using* CouchDB rather than what they are doing *for* the project." There are lots of companies that monetize Apache projects. We *expect* them to. But I'd prefer to see reporting on how those companies directly contribute rather than their use. (yes, I recognize that a company's success/use of our projects is a form of advertising/support/help for our projects, but I take that as a given) I'd be much happier to see a mention in the report that says "$x has committed their $y platform port into the repository." That would be exciting, and I'd certainly have no qualms about a company name in the report :-) Cheers, -g
