On Oct 21, 2011, at 21:51 , Adam Kocoloski wrote:

> On Oct 21, 2011, at 3:42 PM, Dustin Sallings wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Oct 21, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Robert Newson wrote:
>> 
>>> /tmp/bar $ git pull --tags
>>> remote: Counting objects: 4, done.
>>> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (2/2), done.
>>> remote: Total 3 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0)
>>> Unpacking objects: 100% (3/3), done.
>>> From /tmp/foo
>>> - [tag update]      1.0        -> 1.0
>>> Fetching tags only, you probably meant:
>>> git fetch --tags
>>> 
>>> The 1.0 tag was correctly updated.
>> 
>> 
>>      You aren't disagreeing with the thing I'm most concerned, but the thing 
>> I'm second-to-most concerned about but directly brought up.
>> 
>>      I pointed out that you can't *remove* tags, since that's what's 
>> required for a renaming strategy.  Here you're just showing that if every 
>> user everywhere who has a clone of the official repo issues a non-default 
>> update command before looking at tags, then there's no problem.  I think 
>> this might be less reasonable than it sounds.
>> 
>>      For example:  Let's say I'm doing an automated build for my OS 
>> distribution from the 1.0 tag and have shipped stuff out to my customers.  
>> How will you know that there was no failure in my two tiers of git repos 
>> that caused my build to miss the update to your 1.0 tag between the time 
>> that you issued the first one, announced the second one, I did an update 
>> from a mirror during an upstream outage and see the 1.0 tag and ship it and 
>> then find a bug?  Which 1.0 did I ship?
> 
> +1
> 
> We can argue that the only true '1.1.1' is the tarball you grab from the ASF 
> mirrors, but realistically the type of scenario Dustin describes is pretty 
> darn common.

yes, agreed, it will make downstream life a lot easier and it doesn't cost us 
anything (aside from agreeing on it and writing it down) to follow this 
procedure.

Cheers
Jan
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