Interesting point, Bob.

I don't think the case is clear cut here. As Paul points out. But it's
certainly borderline.

I would like to think what other devs think!


On 13 March 2013 20:34, Bob Dionne <bob.dio...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Noah,
>
> I would defer to Paul and Russell's judgement on this. I've read the IP
> clearance issue and agree with you about drops, however I do think having a
> committer involved does matter in the sense that it's assumed they are
> responsible to make that judgement.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bob
> On Mar 13, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Okay. I am happy to be overruled if we have consensus this if fine.
> >
> > I took a look and the changset seemed substantial.
> >
> > What do other people think?
> >
> > Before you answer, please make sure you are familiar with:
> >
> > incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
> >
> > The key here is that:
> >
> > * It doesn't matter if the contributors are committers on the project
> > * If the contribution is big enough that we consider it "done away from
> the
> > project" then it needs IP Clearance
> >
> > The goal here is to have as much activity happening on the project lists
> as
> > possible. The project welcomes code drops, but we need to recognise that
> > they ARE code drops, and do the proper legal clearance. (And obviously,
> > figure out contribution workflows so that committers are not contributing
> > via code drops.)
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13 March 2013 20:10, Paul Davis <paul.joseph.da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm confused on the IP clearance requirement. On IRC you described
> >> this as a code drop but as I read through this I'm seeing a number of
> >> fairly minor changes and a new feature for running M/R in the browser.
> >> Given that Fauxton is so new this seems like rather straight forward
> >> "working on new project" activity.
> >>
> >> The diff stats listed are:
> >>
> >>    20 changed files with 846 additions and 216 deletions.
> >>
> >> which seems rather modest to me given that its all HTML and JS.
> >>
> >> You quoted this bit on IRC:
> >>
> >> "Any code that was developed outside of the ASF SVN repository must be
> >> processed like this, even if the external developer is an ASF
> >> committer."
> >>
> >> And I'm confused on what that means in the context of Git and
> >> specifically in context of GitHub PRs. I think there are some obvious
> >> cases in both directions. A PR for a typo obviously doesn't require IP
> >> clearance. The original Fauxton drop and the BigCouch merge obviously
> >> do require IP clearance.
> >>
> >> But this seems like a fairly normal contribution. If we were rocking
> >> the patches over email to apply to SVN I don't think anyone would have
> >> batted an eye at this. Given the PR here it seems awfully like a
> >> standard RTC pattern to me.
> >>
> >> While I agree that there's always a judgement call to be made on what
> >> constitutes "development outside the ASF" I don't think this case
> >> meets the criteria for what was intended by that policy.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Noah Slater <nsla...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>> Note to committers. Please do not merge this yet.
> >>>
> >>> We are going to have to put this through the IP Clearance process.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 13 March 2013 18:35, chewbranca <g...@git.apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> GitHub user chewbranca opened a pull request:
> >>>>
> >>>>    https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/52
> >>>>
> >>>>    Latest fauxton updates as of march 13
> >>>>
> >>>>    Lots of updates and fixes
> >>>>
> >>>>      * Initial view editor implementation
> >>>>      * Advanced view functionality
> >>>>      * Edit design docs
> >>>>      * Use _rewrites in fauxton couchapp
> >>>>      * Grunt template updates
> >>>>      * Lots of random fixes and cleanup
> >>>>
> >>>> You can merge this pull request into a Git repository by running:
> >>>>
> >>>>    $ git pull https://github.com/cloudant-labs/couchdb fauxton-mar-13
> >>>>
> >>>> Alternatively you can review and apply these changes as the patch at:
> >>>>
> >>>>    https://github.com/apache/couchdb/pull/52.patch
> >>>>
> >>>> ----
> >>>> commit 7f88a2afedb27555b7e92aae1be2d4163bca0393
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-02-07T01:51:05Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Initial in browser MR using PouchDB.mapreduce.js
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 04018d243540ae71b703191e5125818506cf2dd0
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-02-08T21:29:02Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Adding PouchDB file blurbs
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 61ac6f86710192debc50c0cc2275d5ef94a6c658
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-02-14T02:32:01Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Move view editor around and lots more
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 4e038d789b54243aa5b05a819af09c385f5a1806
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-02-24T21:42:54Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Add meta data and more to views
> >>>>
> >>>> commit f3300bbde51ac6c9d12d4cb83d67eef27c6fdeb5
> >>>> Author: Ryan Ramage <ryan.ram...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-02-25T22:32:56Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Adding support for fauxton behind a rewrite in a couchapp
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 68d36d33819c09af30daabea98e093f2b1622e2c
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-02-25T23:35:19Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Merge pull request #16 from garden20/fauxton-couchapp-rewrites
> >>>>
> >>>>    Adding support for fauxton behind a rewrite in a couchapp
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 6033ac3fb6929258c2d47be272d66f4729bcecd1
> >>>> Author: Simon Metson <simon+git...@cloudant.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-02-26T16:15:38Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    remove shared databases from the all_dbs page - not a couchdb
> >> feature
> >>>> (might
> >>>>    come back depending on how we support replicas).
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 829db1ab39ad2a14b6b7a810fe947e47ea01eb66
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-02-26T19:48:27Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Add initial error handling for view establish functions
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 2c81ee740a20999b58199c00df927eff635168b4
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-06T00:25:15Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Clean up for bugs and non save/preview use
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 7d73a824acb6053b501a7f6dbd887168bad2fdb0
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-06T00:41:47Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Merge pull request #17 from cloudant-labs/fauxton-pouch-mr
> >>>>
> >>>>    Advanced _view options and editor
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 0649bafacf15669d294258187e6c189759c1c93a
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-06T01:13:27Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Add results meta to all docs collection
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 3d4781de0b37ada0ebff3a6c4dc2a1f6da9feb95
> >>>> Author: Simon Metson <simon+git...@cloudant.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-11T15:30:04Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    remove templating configuration from grunt.js
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 73350051f9794f6428a4b36ce7be1c0561ebbad7
> >>>> Author: Simon Metson <simon+git...@cloudant.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-11T16:25:52Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    update tasks
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 9667be958948cad2e5d410ca4bc403664d694679
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-11T23:33:53Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Temporarily disable contribute addon and add gitignore
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 1bb903bed7d0bfda05d5c9eb0084a9dbd69110f5
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-11T23:39:57Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Add link to docs in api bar
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 3293c1d4d732048eed063cdb7c654d81e8ef8eeb
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-12T00:24:10Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Update all docs and all design docs links
> >>>>
> >>>> commit e6dbe7a1cdb70378f17e782f26ea5a2ca5a88761
> >>>> Author: Simon Metson <simonmetson+git...@googlemail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-12T11:19:04Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Correct default template
> >>>>
> >>>>    Spotted during review with Mike W.
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 283e25a23147883c497203fa03e38ea552b40225
> >>>> Author: Michael Wallace <mikewallace1...@googlemail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-12T11:24:57Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Merge pull request #19 from
> >>>> cloudant-labs/1690-template-settings-from-config
> >>>>
> >>>>    1690 template settings from config
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 0534bd8c5d82f0fb13da8d8a7a161d7f73b7b191
> >>>> Author: Mike Wallace <mikewallace1...@googlemail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-12T11:05:18Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Fix import of pouchdb
> >>>>
> >>>> commit b18aa31b75f09e31028a97a74dffd81fc0b5667a
> >>>> Author: Michael Wallace <mikewallace1...@googlemail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-12T11:30:42Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Merge pull request #20 from
> cloudant-labs/fauxton-fix-pouchdb-import
> >>>>
> >>>>    Fix import of pouchdb
> >>>>
> >>>> commit f0b587c41c7ed777328827d06dc5a91521468c82
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-12T23:25:28Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Cleanup some broken things on documents
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 25881bb138b9341c1b31f573efe094f26ce66de9
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-13T17:31:02Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Merge remote-tracking branch 'upstream/fauxton' into fauxton
> >>>>
> >>>>    Conflicts:
> >>>>        src/fauxton/app/templates/databases/sidebar.html
> >>>>        src/fauxton/app/templates/fauxton/api_bar.html
> >>>>
> >>>> commit 0d08a755880586cfcb23f0240b57ff8a6a5ba858
> >>>> Author: Russell Branca <chewbra...@gmail.com>
> >>>> Date:   2013-03-13T17:32:59Z
> >>>>
> >>>>    Fix span width for new database button
> >>>>
> >>>> ----
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> NS
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > NS
>
>


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