On 10 November 2013 22:02, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi Jan, > > some days ago (before asking you) I have uploaded a zip file with .po and > .mo files. The result was the structure with all files and folders as > needed. I startet to translate just a minimal bit. Then, after the > conversation with you, I just uploaded a zip archive with only .pot files > and fired "update against templates". And everything is still fine. >
try to make a change in the .pot files, upload and update, then you should see that the corresponding .po files are not changes. > > You mentioned it can be a bit tricky to do the initial upload. What could > go wrong then? I have the feeling, everything is fine but don't want to > miss any possible problems. > When you go into the administration menu, you can see that not everything is fine, you dont have the option to update german/russian against templates. Please remember the .pot files contain what you extract from your source (typically en-US), the have the same format as .po files but the msgstr is empty only msgid is used. They go into a subdirectory "templates" , and with that you can update the .po directories (in your case german/russian) with the function "update against templates" I just checked on the vm and there are no .pot files available (or template directory). As I mentioned pootle is a little tricky about the template directory, and because you already have create de and ru, I assume it will not create the template dir. Zip the .pot files and send the to me directly, then I will upload them in a day or two. rgds jan I. > See also the screenshot attached. > > Thanks for a short reply. > > Cheers > > Andy > > > On 9 November 2013 20:53, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hi Jan, >> >> a huge thanks for your reply and all the insights. This already helps >> very very much. I now need to find some time to see how we proceed here. We >> need to integrate the creation and extraction of the .pot and .po files. I >> did that already manually but it should be done automatically in the build >> scripts. I would like to come back to you when things are even clearer. >> >> Thanks again very much! >> >> Cheers >> >> Andy >> >> On 9 November 2013 11:55, janI <j...@apache.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi Andy. >>> >>> thanks for your mail, I have added infra@ since others might also want >>> to read the answers. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 November 2013 22:53, Andy Wenk <andyw...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jan, >>>> >>>> I have read https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6888 and would >>>> like to get a better understanding, of how we can integrate the pootle >>>> service into the CouchDB CI. In your first comment, you mentioned that you >>>> have written some tools. What are the for? Can they help us? >>>> >>> >>> The tools I have made is a set of C++ classes with a main, that extract >>> the original (typical en-US) messages from from source files and generates >>> template files (.pot). The tool is made is made so that it is very simple >>> to add new source type (e.g. .java). >>> >>> If you use Sphinx that is a good alternative. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> We will be able to create .po files with Sphinx. I am now wondering, >>>> how these files can be uploaded to >>>> https://translate.apache.org/projects/couchdb/ . Is there an API we >>>> can use? As far as I understood, it is also possible to update existing >>>> files - what is for sure essential. >>>> >>> >>> There are no api, you do it via the UI. >>> >>> >>>> It would be great if there are some scenario descriptions or experience >>>> reports. Maybe the folks from the Apache OpenOffice project have some? Or >>>> can you just give some info? That would be awesome ;-). >>>> >>> >>> I am one of those folks (actually, probably one of two that knows most >>> about this process) :-) >>> >>> Let me first shortly present the normal work pattern, and then show how >>> you can get started: >>> >>> The normal workflow are (please see some of the things as being able to >>> happen in parallel) >>> >>> 1) Write source that contain new/changes en-US messages >>> 2) extract messages from source files to 1 or more template files (many >>> projects prefer to group the template files after function, e.g. >>> help/ui/errors, but you can also have a 1-1 with source files). >>> 3) Upload changed .pot files (template files, same format as .po just >>> another name) to pootle using the UI. >>> 4) Run "update languages against templates" in the UI. This will do the >>> following: >>> a) Add new messages to all language files (for each .pot file, you have >>> 1 .po file pr language), leaving translation empty >>> b) Mark changes messages as "fuzzy" so the translations can be corrected. >>> 5) Let translators do their magic online (remark translators can be but >>> need not be committers) >>> 6) Run "sync database to po files" >>> 7) Download po files (as zip) using th UI >>> 8) Merge po files into the source, as pr your code requirement (in AOO, >>> the source files is expanded with all languages, so users can switch >>> online). >>> 9) Compile and test. >>> >>> In order to bootstrap your project, you need to: >>> 1) define the languages you want to have (UI) >>> 2) Upload the first set of templates (its a bit tricky, I can do that >>> for you if you mail me a zip file) >>> 3) Upload any translatations you may already have >>> 4) use the above workflow. >>> >>> I have some spare cycles and can help you in 2 different ways if you >>> want it: >>> a) help setup/load the initial database >>> >>> or >>> b) join the project and help design a workflow fitting for your needs >>> and of course be there to get it working. >>> >>> Please if something is unclear or you need more information, please ask. >>> >>> rgds >>> jan I. >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot for your help! >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andy Wenk >>>> Hamburg - Germany >>>> RockIt! >>>> >>>> http://www.couchdb-buch.de >>>> >>>> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Andy Wenk >> Hamburg - Germany >> RockIt! >> >> http://www.couchdb-buch.de >> >> GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >> > > > > -- > Andy Wenk > Hamburg - Germany > RockIt! > > http://www.couchdb-buch.de > > GPG fingerprint: C044 8322 9E12 1483 4FEC 9452 B65D 6BE3 9ED3 9588 >
