On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 7:17 PM, Matthew Hayes <matthew.terence.ha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Roman, > > I started a discussion > <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201710.mbox/browser> > on > graduation in October. Some feedback was > > 1) concern over number of committers vs. number of PMC members (here > <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201710.mbox/%3Cop.y7jw80af4ntv07%40desktop-v42f38k%3E> > and here > <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201710.mbox/%3CCAOqetn_tXYM0MgZ_QUJg9xDiWUr2_VG5Msde96fmvBuBQriK-w%40mail.gmail.com%3E> > ) > 2) process for how committers are removed (here > <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201710.mbox/%3CCAFAMeYLxX5VD-t7Z4MQkKQ6y_M8BEdU975tjsUbAY7B5qVu3Zw%40mail.gmail.com%3E> > ) > 3) various website issues and an issue regarding sha512 checksum extension ( > here > <https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201710.mbox/%3CCAOGo0VZN4mLw-eS-Oz8W1hVhS70Y_BwwikJjRi9Sx3n0s8sFMg%40mail.gmail.com%3E> > ) > > I don't know if any action is required for #2; this was based on Fineract's > process, which seemed reasonable to us. Do committers usually remain > indefinitely? I don't have a strong opinion either way.
In most projects -- yes. So how about we just do it the default way and call it a day? Any strong objections? > For #1, I thought from previous discussions that having 4 PMC members was > sufficient. John said 5 members was the bare minimum. John is NOT correct. There's nothing in the policy that states that. 4 PMC is fine, but see bellow... > I'm sure if we asked more committers would be willing to join the PMC. Mike > suggested > asking who would like to remain a committer going forward after > graduation. Generally, immediately after graduation should the committer > list equal the PMC list? i.e. should we ask who would like to remain as > both a committer and and PMC member? ...for all of my podlings I have advocated PMC == committers at the graduation point. I think it sets up a very healthy culture for the project. Is this something you guys are willing to consider? Now, of course, you will still have to *ask* existing committers if they would like to join a PMC (given an additional set of responsibilities) but typically most people say yes. > For #3, most of the issues raised with the website have been fixed. Most > of the Whimsy checks for DataFu > <https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/datafu> are now green, aside from > Events and Image, which don't seem to pass for anyone, and License, which > seems like an invalid check to me. I'm working on addressing the remaining > issues for #3. The sha512 issue requires a new release, which we should do > anyways. Great. So lets see if we can do this final push for graduation in the coming month or so. Thanks, Roman.
