Enough other comments now that I'll vote: +1

  jon

On Fri, Feb 7, 2020, 11:20 AM leerho <[email protected]> wrote:

> Another good idea. Thanks!
>
> Lee.
>
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 11:13 AM Evans Ye <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> +1!
>>
>> | For the transition: You could add an auto reply to the Google Group
>> with a convenient link to mailto:[email protected] and
>> leave the group for a while, or indefinitely.
>>
>> I think it helps to migrate the users by putting up a deadline which is
>> the date to set the forum to be read-only alongside with the new users@
>> message. After that date users can still read previous discussions, but
>> can't post a new one.
>>
>> Evans
>>
>> leerho <[email protected]> 於 2020年2月7日 週五 下午2:36寫道:
>>
>>> Kenn,
>>> Thanks for your suggestion about the alias -- great idea.  But how do we
>>> link Slack and StackOverflow to user@ ?  I did some searching on Slack
>>> to see if there was some configuration to automatically transcribe the
>>> messages there directly to an Apache mail list, but I could not find any
>>> way to do that.  I don't know anything about how StackOverflow works.
>>>
>>> Lee.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:42 PM Dave Fisher <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 - thanks for surfacing the reasoning on the dev@ list.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 6, 2020, at 11:24 PM, Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> +1 to the proposal
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 8:22 PM Kenneth Knowles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For the transition: You could add an auto reply to the Google Group
>>>>> with a convenient link to mailto:
>>>>> [email protected] and leave the group for a
>>>>> while, or indefinitely.
>>>>>
>>>>> From experience, I think Lee is right: many people are shy about
>>>>> writing to dev@ even when they are well-qualified and have very clear
>>>>> and good questions to contribute. TBH they are also shy about writing to
>>>>> user@ in many cases. Users show up in Slack and StackOverflow too.
>>>>> Worth considering how to tie these together to include all these different
>>>>> sorts of users. But I am also on the side of establishing a user@
>>>>> mailing list early. For Beam, it has always had much less traffic 
>>>>> (recently
>>>>> dev@ was 5x user@) but still is a valuable resource for those who use
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> If consensus becomes apparent, a mentor can set up user@/users@
>>>>> (definitely go with an alias for both here).
>>>>>
>>>>> Kenn
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2020 at 1:39 PM Eric Bax <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Approve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=iOS>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 6, 2020, 10:22 AM, leerho <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a call for a vote on the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I propose that we deprecate the Google Groups
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sketches-user> forum and
>>>>>> direct users to a newly created users@ email list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The steps would be as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. Create a new [email protected] email list.
>>>>>>    2. Clearly mark the existing Google Groups site as deprecated and
>>>>>>    direct users to the new list.
>>>>>>    3. Update all references to the Google Groups site on our web
>>>>>>    site and repository READMEs to the new list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This vote will be performed in one stage:
>>>>>>    - This letter will be published on dev@ and remain open for at
>>>>>> least 72 hours and at least 3 (+1) PPMC votes or a majority of (+1) are
>>>>>> acquired. All PPMC members including Mentors can vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please vote accordingly:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ ] +1 approve
>>>>>> [ ] +0 no opinion
>>>>>> [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Lee Rhodes
>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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