On 10 May 2018 at 16:56, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I still minimally require proper gpg signatures on binary artifacts. The
> source artifacts are what get far more scrutiny, but the binaries are
> released on apache.org after all.

+1

It may also be possible to verify that the binary package works.
This obviously depends very much on the project.

In the case of Java code, it's possible to verify that the jars
contain the expected package names.
Also that the META-INF directory contains NOTICE and LICENSE files, etc.

> On 10 May 2018 at 10:20, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:17 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On 10 May 2018 at 11:37, Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:31 AM, Huxing Zhang <hux...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Is there any plan for going through the vote process of Binary file?
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, binaries will also go through the vote process.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No. It makes no sense.
>> >>
>> >> There is NO WAY to verify a binary. Even compiling from source to
>> binary on
>> >> your machine, and trying to compare against a target binary will
>> generally
>> >> fail since timestamps are embedded. Or maybe there are different
>> compilers
>> >> being used.
>> >>
>> >> The Foundation *never* votes on binaries, because the Foundation DOES
>> NOT
>> >> RELEASE BINARIES. The Foundation only votes/authorizes/releases source
>> >> code. REPEAT: only source code.
>> >>
>> >> Only source. Which is verifiable. Which has provenance.
>> >
>> > The LICENCE and NOTICE files that accompany the binary artifact are
>> > text, and IMO should be checked against the contents of the binary
>> > artifact.
>> > For example, if the binary bundles jars from other projects, the L&N
>> > need to agree with the bundled contents.
>>
>> +1000! That has been a well established practice in the Incubator and
>> as such I see no reason not to keep following it.
>>
>> In addition to that, a reasonable effort should be put into making sure
>> that the binary bundle doesn't drag in bits with incompatible licenses
>> (such as GPL). That's why verifying LICENSE in the binary bundle
>> is NOT a simple exersize of comparing it to the source bundle.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Roman.
>>
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