What do you think about having pages in Chinese that explain why we prefer to all use English? d.
On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 07:21, Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes. I think so. That is why I am asking them to keep project documents and > websites in dual languages. > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Apache SkyWalking, Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating), Zipkin > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > Danny Angus <danny.an...@gmail.com> 于2019年9月2日周一 下午1:47写道： >> >> This raises a question for me, if you are finding it hard to increase >> contributors, could this be related to using Chinese? I would hypothesise >> that using English for all things would make it harder for some Chinese >> speakers to contribute, but much easier for people who don't speak Chinese >> to get involved with the project. >> Just my 2c >> Danny >> >> On Sun, 25 Aug 2019, 5:03 am Sheng Wu, <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Echarts PPMC and contributor team >>> >>> From the ECharts incubator report, Echarts is facing serious issues of >>> following the Apache way. >>> ECharts has been in Apache Incubator 1.5 years, which is a long time. But >>> the ECharts still acts like a GitHub OSS, rather than Apache project. >>> In Apache, we are helping project believing the Apache way, rather than >>> convincing or forcing project to do something. The progress of ECharts >>> makes a lot of concerns in Incubator. >>> As in my personal connection w/ ECharts PPMC members, Wenli and Zhongyi, >>> they still think Echarts want to be part of the foundation, I am doing this >>> review report as a shepherd perspective. >>> >>> I hope the following SERIOUS issues could be fixed as quickly as possible, >>> and showing the incubator ECharts community is embracing the Apache Wa >>> >>> 1. Mail list communication. Today, Mail list has very little traffic, any >>> decision made is not forwarding to it, even if some discussions happen at >>> GitHub. >>> 2. Chinese is still widely used in GitHub. I am also a native Mandarin >>> speaker, but the purpose of being in the Foundation is looking forward to >>> wider/global users, so we need English. Translation service could be used >>> if the PPMC think English is a block. But for my personal perspective, >>> maybe many people English is not very good, but good enough to understand. >>> The community just needs to be guided. >>> 3. Serious Branding Issue. https://echarts.baidu.com/ needs to be >>> abandoned, including Baidu advertising in this page >>> 4. Community build lacked. Developer lacked. From my OSS experiences, js >>> project should have more codes contributors, especially for a widely-used >>> project like ECharts. Even I know, there are different ways to project >>> contributions, but still too less. Only 7 contribute codes over 100 lines. >>> At the same time, the top 2 contribute 100k+ and 5k+ lines. This is more >>> serious issue than just diversity lacked. If the top 2 left or are busy in >>> some cases, the project would stop. >>> 5. Mentors feel without PPMC and community feedback/support. Mentors from >>> Foundations are volunteers to offer help, these help only work when you are >>> willing to learn. I don't have so much to say about this, this depends on >>> PPMC and contributor team willings. >>> 6. Who will do mental lead? The community in Apache should be(but not yet >>> for ECharts) diversity, but I hope/think someone from PPMC could step out, >>> do the lead. Such as starting the discussion about report, feature roadmap, >>> release plan, community event. This could be not a single individual, but >>> really require PPMC show up. >>> 7. No one update the Incubator status page. >>> https://incubator.apache.org/projects/echarts.html No progress shows there. >>> 8. Chinese and English websites are not the same. As a native Mandarin, >>> this issue shows up. This should not happen. Chinese website should be a >>> translation version only, nothing more. >>> 9. Why master branch codes have a big gap with the release version. In >>> release page, https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts/releases, the >>> number of commit differences keep > 300. Why? Where is the real release >>> code? >>> 10. Unofficial release page with unexpected releases. >>> https://echarts.apache.org/zh/dist/, list in ZH website, >>> https://echarts.apache.org/zh/download.html. But not showing at EN page. I >>> don't know what are they. >>> 11. A lot of unofficial releases show up in GitHub release page. >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts/releases. In the release page, >>> only 4.2.1 and 4.1.0(I assume these two passed the incubator votes). In >>> that release page, a lot of releases made by core contributor with >>> changelog. >>> 12. Official GitHub page pointing download page to 3rd party pages, >>> including EN. https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts#get-echarts >>> 13. Branding issue about `Official >>> Extensions`(https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts#official-extensions). >>> If it is official, it should be hosted in Apache, but clearly, they are >>> not. >>> 14. Branding even IP issue about `Developers Contributions`, listed in >>> official GitHub readme. >>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-echarts#developers-contributions. Many >>> individual names listed there, are they part of ECharts? >>> >>> Suggestions >>> Please PPMC could consider to work on the report(even not officially for >>> Incubator), which help you to review the project. >>> >>> All above opinions are myself only. >>> I am going to help review if you have report rather than I need to spend >>> several hours to review your repo, website and all other resources. >>> >>> You have many riche experienced mentors, please work with them ASAP. >>> >>> >>> Sheng Wu 吴晟 >>> >>> Apache SkyWalking, Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating), Apache Incubator >>> Twitter, wusheng1108 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org
