Hi Ovilia,

I think most of our developers will prefer not to display the watermark on
their product. They need to search the document to find out how to turn it
off.
It's the opposite of `good by default`, which is what we want in the next
5.0

Thanks

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:10 AM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Sheng,
>
> Can you share more information how SkyWalking's case is different here,
> since Apache
> "doesn't force the users to show this on the product page"?
>
> Thanks
>
> *Ovilia*
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:06 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月2日周四 上午11:02写道:
> >
> > > The watermark itself is a way to make it easier for users to share that
> > > information.
> > >
> > > As for whether it is required to state using ECharts inside, could
> Sheng
> > Wu
> > > or other
> > > mentors help answer this question?
> > >
> >
> > I think license says this,
> > https://github.com/apache/skywalking/blob/master/LICENSE#L100
> > >       (c) You must retain, in the Source form of any Derivative Works
> >           that You distribute, all copyright, patent, trademark, and
> >           attribution notices from the Source form of the Work,
> >           excluding those notices that do not pertain to any part of
> >           the Derivative Works; and
> >
> > Apache 2.0 is business-friendly, it doesn't force the users to show this
> on
> > the product page.
> > Is this triggered by the thing, Apache SkyWalking requesting BoCloud
> > following Apache 2.0 License requirements?
> >
> > Sheng Wu 吴晟
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > *Ovilia*
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:50 AM Clement Ho <clem...@gitlab.com.invalid
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm a little confused at the proposal. Is it to add a mandatory
> > > > watermark/require users of ECharts to mention that they are using
> > ECharts
> > > > somewhere in their product or is it just making it easier for users
> to
> > > > share that they are using ECharts for their charting solution as an
> > > > optional configuration?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 9:44 PM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd like to propose adding a watermark stating something like
> "Charts
> > > > > provided using Apache
> > > > > ECharts (incubating)" in ECharts 5.0 which is displayed as small
> > > > > translucent text in the bottom
> > > > > right corner and developers may have a way to opt out
> > programmatically.
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason behind this is letting more visitors to those charts
> know
> > > that
> > > > > they are made with
> > > > >  ECharts. We recognize that many developers may not make a
> statement
> > > that
> > > > > the product is
> > > > > made with ECharts as the Apache license asks. Since we have so many
> > > users
> > > > > (200,000 downloads
> > > > > each week on npm), it's hard or almost impossible for us to find
> and
> > > > check
> > > > > the violations.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, we could use the watermark as a way to provide a simple method
> to
> > > > help
> > > > > with the branding.
> > > > > If some users prefer to opt out and maybe make a statement of using
> > > > ECharts
> > > > > elsewhere in their
> > > > > product, they can do this easily with a simple option.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > *Ovilia*
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


-- 
Yi Shen
Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC

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