To be clear the domain shouldn't use Apache or echarts or anything confusing. Branding can help.more.on that.
On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 22:33 Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think once you are not using apache.org, it works. > I seconded KAM's idea about using powered by logo on that website. And > anyplace on that website mentioning ECharts, please use Apache ECharts, and > add page footer about the IP. > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> 于2020年9月18日周五 上午11:09写道： > >> Yes, I agree with that it doesn't seem proper to let a company owned >> product >> use an Apache domain. >> >> As I said, we have technical difficulty donating the server. How can we >> make >> PPMC owns it if the server cannot be accessed outside of Baidu? >> >> I really don't wish to make things complicated here. The gallery is a >> platform >> hosting user uploaded works of ECharts and it's not part of the ECharts >> software >> but a third-party tool. >> >> So how about Baidu picking another domain name >> (and ask IPMC for suggestion before purchasing) for the product and make >> a clear notification that the gallery is not an official product of ASF? >> ECharts official Website will not link to it if IPMC think it's not >> proper. >> >> IMO it shouldn't have any problem if it doesn't claim to be an official >> ECharts >> product (correct me if I'm wrong) but just powered by ECharts. >> By using a domain name that does not contain ECharts in it, we hope not >> to be >> taken by mistake as an official product. >> >> Hope this proposal could work with you. >> >> Thanks >> >> *Ovilia* >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:49 AM Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 9/14/2020 2:08 AM, Ovilia wrote: >>> > Another thing I'd like to confirm here is that, would it be OK for the >>> ASF >>> > that we use >>> > the domain name gallery.echarts.apache.org for the gallery while >>> keeping >>> > the code >>> > license and the ownership of the user data to be of Baidu? >>> >>> Ovilia, yes, I see that as a problem to use an apache.org sub-domain for >>> any third party. >>> >>> > >>> > Thanks >>> > >>> > *Ovilia* >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:13 AM Zhongxiang Wang <wan...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I appreciate using a subdomain of echarts.apache.org. >>> >> >>> >> It's simple enough to create a CNAME DNS record ` >>> >> gallery.echarts.apache.org` pointing to the current server of the >>> domain ` >>> >> gallery.echartsjs.com` and we have no need to do something extra. >>> >> >>> >> Thanks, >>> >> Zhongxiang. >>> >> >>> >> On 2020/09/11 08:06:38, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Dave! >>> >>> >>> >>> In this case, I would personally prefer using >>> gallery.echarts.apache.org >>> >>> instead of >>> >>> gallery.echartsjs.com. >>> >>> >>> >>> Hope to hear from other PPMC members' opinions. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> >>> *Ovilia* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:56 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi - >>> >>>> >>> >>>> (With my mentor hat.) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Apologies for the late reply. I am fine for this to happen. It is >>> not >>> >>>> unprecedented. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> For example, the Apache OpenOffice PMC was able to continue using >>> >>>> openoffice.org since it already had a huge user base. While much of >>> >> the >>> >>>> domain is hosted on ASF infrastructure including PMC maintained VMs >>> >> hosted >>> >>>> on ASF Infra, a few subdomains like templates.openoffice.org is >>> >> actually >>> >>>> hosted via CNAME on sourceforge.net. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> What Infra and Greg would like to see is the PPMC members discussing >>> >>>> whether they have trouble with Baidu hosting a resource a particular >>> >>>> subdomain. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Regards, >>> >>>> Dave >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> On Sep 7, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Do our mentors and Justin have anything to comment on this plan? >>> >>>>> Would it be all right if Baidu owns the user data and server while >>> >> using >>> >>>>> Apache domain name? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Thanks >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Ovilia >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:20 AM Yi Shen <shenyi....@gmail.com >>> >> <mailto: >>> >>>> shenyi....@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>>> Hi Greg, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Thanks for the very detailed explanation. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> What we concerned about is that we need to donate the server as we >>> >> did on >>> >>>>> the website CDN in China. >>> >>>>> It will be good if we only need to create a CNAME for >>> >>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/>. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Regards. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 5:57 AM Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com >>> <mailto: >>> >>>> gst...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 4:16 AM Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com >>> >> <mailto: >>> >>>> oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>>>>>> ... >>> >>>>>>> I don't think we could use the domain name >>> >>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/> >>> >>>>>> but >>> >>>>>>> keep >>> >>>>>>> the server in Baidu company inside (correct me if I'm wrong), >>> >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> That should not be a problem! ... let's say the server is located >>> >> at " >>> >>>>>> something-a38cf9.baidu.com <http://something-a38cf9.baidu.com/>" >>> >> ... >>> >>>> we can simply create a CNAME DNS record >>> >>>>>> for >>> >>>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/> >>> to >>> >>>> point to that server. This is actually quite >>> >>>>>> normal for various apache.org <http://apache.org/> hostnames. We >>> >>>> point to servers located "off >>> >>>>>> premises" all the time. Then, echarts can create links to direct >>> >>>> people to >>> >>>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/>. >>> >>>> Solved! >>> >>>>>> Setting up such a CNAME is very simple for INFRA, so don't worry >>> >> about >>> >>>> the >>> >>>>>> work. We can have it set up as soon as the community reaches >>> >> consensus >>> >>>> on >>> >>>>>> that approach (eg. discussion/vote where Infra can see the >>> >> community >>> >>>>>> agrees). Discuss, the file an INFRA Jira ticket. >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>> >>>>>> -g >>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> -- >>> >>>>> Yi Shen >>> >>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC >>> >>>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >>> Kevin A. McGrail >>> kmcgr...@apache.org >>> >>> Member, Apache Software Foundation >>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >>> >>>
