Hi - I agree with Kevin.
> On Sep 19, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hi Ovilia, > > If the new domain doesn't reference apache or echarts name, that would > be completely fine with a disclaimer as you suggest. They could even > use a Powered By Logo https://www.apache.org/foundation/press/kit/ > > I would ask branding for guidance on the domain name but something like > gallery.baidu.com as a subdomain would be fine. no need for a new > domain name. As long as it does not include “ECharts” in the domain name or url branding should be happy. You can certainly link to it from the website. You should also have text that says that if anyone wants to offer a third party set of ECharts examples that they should contact the PMC. The PMC would review and add the links. Regards, Dave > > On 9/17/2020 11:07 PM, Ovilia wrote: >> Yes, I agree with that it doesn't seem proper to let a company owned >> product >> use an Apache domain. >> >> As I said, we have technical difficulty donating the server. How can >> we make >> PPMC owns it if the server cannot be accessed outside of Baidu? >> >> I really don't wish to make things complicated here. The gallery is a >> platform >> hosting user uploaded works of ECharts and it's not part of the >> ECharts software >> but a third-party tool. >> >> So how about Baidu picking another domain name >> (and ask IPMC for suggestion before purchasing) for the product and make >> a clear notification that the gallery is not an official product of ASF? >> ECharts official Website will not link to it if IPMC think it's not >> proper. >> >> IMO it shouldn't have any problem if it doesn't claim to be an >> official ECharts >> product (correct me if I'm wrong) but just powered by ECharts. >> By using a domain name that does not contain ECharts in it, we hope >> not to be >> taken by mistake as an official product. >> >> Hope this proposal could work with you. >> >> Thanks >> * >> * >> *Ovilia* >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:49 AM Kevin A. McGrail <kmcgr...@apache.org >> <mailto:kmcgr...@apache.org>> wrote: >> >> >> On 9/14/2020 2:08 AM, Ovilia wrote: >>> Another thing I'd like to confirm here is that, would it be OK >> for the ASF >>> that we use >>> the domain name gallery.echarts.apache.org >> <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> for the gallery while keeping >>> the code >>> license and the ownership of the user data to be of Baidu? >> >> Ovilia, yes, I see that as a problem to use an apache.org >> <http://apache.org> sub-domain for >> any third party. >> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> *Ovilia* >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 12:13 AM Zhongxiang Wang >> <wan...@apache.org <mailto:wan...@apache.org>> wrote: >>> >>>> I appreciate using a subdomain of echarts.apache.org >> <http://echarts.apache.org>. >>>> >>>> It's simple enough to create a CNAME DNS record ` >>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org>` >> pointing to the current server of the domain ` >>>> gallery.echartsjs.com <http://gallery.echartsjs.com>` and we >> have no need to do something extra. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Zhongxiang. >>>> >>>> On 2020/09/11 08:06:38, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com >> <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> Thanks Dave! >>>>> >>>>> In this case, I would personally prefer using >> gallery.echarts.apache.org <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> >>>>> instead of >>>>> gallery.echartsjs.com <http://gallery.echartsjs.com>. >>>>> >>>>> Hope to hear from other PPMC members' opinions. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> *Ovilia* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:56 AM Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org >> <mailto:w...@apache.org>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi - >>>>>> >>>>>> (With my mentor hat.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Apologies for the late reply. I am fine for this to happen. >> It is not >>>>>> unprecedented. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, the Apache OpenOffice PMC was able to continue using >>>>>> openoffice.org <http://openoffice.org> since it already had a >> huge user base. While much of >>>> the >>>>>> domain is hosted on ASF infrastructure including PMC >> maintained VMs >>>> hosted >>>>>> on ASF Infra, a few subdomains like templates.openoffice.org >> <http://templates.openoffice.org> is >>>> actually >>>>>> hosted via CNAME on sourceforge.net <http://sourceforge.net>. >>>>>> >>>>>> What Infra and Greg would like to see is the PPMC members >> discussing >>>>>> whether they have trouble with Baidu hosting a resource a >> particular >>>>>> subdomain. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Ovilia <oviliazh...@gmail.com >> <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do our mentors and Justin have anything to comment on this plan? >>>>>>> Would it be all right if Baidu owns the user data and server >> while >>>> using >>>>>>> Apache domain name? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ovilia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 11:20 AM Yi Shen >> <shenyi....@gmail.com <mailto:shenyi....@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto: >>>>>> shenyi....@gmail.com <mailto:shenyi....@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Greg, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the very detailed explanation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What we concerned about is that we need to donate the server >> as we >>>> did on >>>>>>> the website CDN in China. >>>>>>> It will be good if we only need to create a CNAME for >>>>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org >> <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> >> <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/>. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 5:57 AM Greg Stein <gst...@gmail.com >> <mailto:gst...@gmail.com> <mailto: >>>>>> gst...@gmail.com <mailto:gst...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 4:16 AM Ovilia >> <oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto: >>>>>> oviliazh...@gmail.com <mailto:oviliazh...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> ... >>>>>>>>> I don't think we could use the domain name >>>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org >> <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> >> <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/> >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>>> the server in Baidu company inside (correct me if I'm wrong), >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That should not be a problem! ... let's say the server is >> located >>>> at " >>>>>>>> something-a38cf9.baidu.com >> <http://something-a38cf9.baidu.com> >> <http://something-a38cf9.baidu.com/>" >>>> ... >>>>>> we can simply create a CNAME DNS record >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org >> <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> >> <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/> to >>>>>> point to that server. This is actually quite >>>>>>>> normal for various apache.org <http://apache.org> >> <http://apache.org/> hostnames. We >>>>>> point to servers located "off >>>>>>>> premises" all the time. Then, echarts can create links to >> direct >>>>>> people to >>>>>>>> gallery.echarts.apache.org >> <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org> >> <http://gallery.echarts.apache.org/>. >>>>>> Solved! >>>>>>>> Setting up such a CNAME is very simple for INFRA, so don't >> worry >>>> about >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> work. We can have it set up as soon as the community reaches >>>> consensus >>>>>> on >>>>>>>> that approach (eg. discussion/vote where Infra can see the >>>> community >>>>>>>> agrees). Discuss, the file an INFRA Jira ticket. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> -g >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Yi Shen >>>>>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC >>>>>> >>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >> <mailto:dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >> <mailto:dev-h...@echarts.apache.org> >>>> >>>> >> -- >> Kevin A. McGrail >> kmcgr...@apache.org >> >> Member, Apache Software Foundation >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org >> <mailto:dev-unsubscr...@echarts.apache.org> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@echarts.apache.org >> <mailto:dev-h...@echarts.apache.org> >> > -- > Kevin A. 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