Hi, How about "an OSGI based runtime for creating enterprise servers". To me the word assembling implies that everything you need exists in Karaf and it is just a case of pulling different bits from Karaf together. I don't think this is what is intended.
My 2 cents worth. Alasdair Alasdair Nottingham On 1 Jun 2010, at 08:12, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com> wrote: > Why would we limit Karaf to the integration world ? > Karaf may be used as the base platform for ActiveMQ, Directory, > James, Geronimo, ServiceMix. All of those are not necesseraly geared > toward integration imho, and even if they were, Karaf itself does not > have anything specific to this area imho. > > I still think David's the best choice so far: > > "an OSGI based runtime for assembling enterprise servers" > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:06, Charles Moulliard <cmoulli...@gmail.com> wrote: >> +1 >> >> Here is a new suggestion based on remarks : >> >> "an OSGI-based runtime for assembling enterprise server applications >> integration oriented" >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Charles Moulliard >> >> Senior Enterprise Architect (J2EE, .NET, SOA) >> Apache Camel/ServiceMix Committer >> >> ******************************************************************* >> - Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com >> - Twitter : http://twitter.com/cmoulliard >> - Linkedlin : http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlesmoulliard >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Freeman Fang <freeman.f...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> And here is my +1 for moving karaf to a TLP. >>> >>> Best Regards >>> Freeman >>> On 2010-5-31, at 下午5:14, Gert Vanthienen wrote: >>> >>>> L.S., >>>> >>>> Adding my (late) +1 for moving Karaf to a TLP >>>> >>>> Not sure if you're still looking for someone to take an initial stab >>>> at the project goal or if that's being discussed on the Felix PMC at >>>> the moment, but here's my proposal anyway: >>>> "... for the creation and maintenance of >>>> a small, extensible and enterprise-ready OSGi-based server runtime, >>>> capable of being a base framework for building other enterprise >>>> server applications, >>>> as well as the necessary tools, add-ons and components to facilitate >>>> building these applications" >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Gert Vanthienen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30 May 2010 22:53, Lukasz Dywicki <luk...@dywicki.pl> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I would like to say 'yes' for TLP (even if my vote doesn't count). >>>>> >>>>> I try contribute Karaf from time to time and I wish continue doing that, >>>>> when it will move to top level too. >>>>> >>>>> For me it does not make sense to try close all OSGi releated things in >>>>> Felix >>>>> project. At this moment we have Aries which is also very closer to OSGi >>>>> but >>>>> it's not a part of Felix. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Lukasz Dywicki >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Jarek Gawor-2 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I would like to be involved with this TLP as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Jarek >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, May 28, 2010, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems there is a consensus to move Karaf as a TLP, at least amongst >>>>>>> people involved in Karaf (the other felix committers haven't really >>>>>>> expressed any opinion). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the next steps would be to draft a proposed resolution to the >>>>>>> board, >>>>>>> which would include: >>>>>>> * the project goal >>>>>>> * the project PMC (including the chair) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In order to create an open community from the start, I'd like to invite >>>>>>> anyone with an Apache account willing to contribute to Karaf to raise >>>>>>> hands >>>>>>> so that we can build this list. I don't think opening it wider for now >>>>>>> would be wise, but I do thing we should have a very low entry bar for >>>>>>> committership (but that can be discussed later). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll try to come up with a proposal for Karaf's project goal asap, but >>>>>>> anyone is welcome to give it a try and propose some wording. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> FWIW, it would like the following, we just need to fill the XXXX: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best >>>>>>> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the >>>>>>> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management >>>>>>> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of >>>>>>> open-source software related to a machine learning platform >>>>>>> for distribution at no charge to the public. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management >>>>>>> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Karaf Project", >>>>>>> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the >>>>>>> Foundation; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby is >>>>>>> responsible for the creation and maintenance of software >>>>>>> related to XXXXXXX; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Karaf" be >>>>>>> and hereby is created, the person holding such office to >>>>>>> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair >>>>>>> of the Apache Karaf Project, and to have primary responsibility >>>>>>> for management of the projects within the scope of >>>>>>> responsibility of the Apache Karaf Project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and >>>>>>> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the >>>>>>> Apache Karaf Project: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * xxx <x...@apache.org>> >>>>>>> * ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that XXXXX >>>>>>> be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Karaf, to >>>>>>> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the >>>>>>> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until >>>>>>> death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, >>>>>>> or until a successor is appointed; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Karaf PMC be and hereby is >>>>>>> tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to >>>>>>> encourage open development and increased participation in the >>>>>>> Apache Mahout Project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Karaf Project be and hereby >>>>>>> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache >>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>>>>>> Felix Karaf sub-project encumbered upon the >>>>>>> Apache Felix Project are hereafter discharged. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:20, Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Karaf has been brought into the Felix TLP nearly one year ago. >>>>>>>> Things have not been too bad, but I still see the karaf community as >>>>>>>> being very disjoint from the other felix community, as it looks that >>>>>>>> none >>>>>>>> of the existing felix committers did really get involved in Karaf. I >>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>> don't blame anyone, i think it's just that the interest are not the >>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> (not sure >>>>>>>> where they actually diverge though). >>>>>>>> I don't really see what benefit Karaf would have in continuing being >>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>> of Felix, so >>>>>>>> I'd like to open the discussion about moving it to a TLP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Guillaume Nodet >>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> ------------------------ >>>>>>> Open Source SOA >>>>>>> http://fusesource.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> http://old.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Move-Karaf-as-a-TLP-tp28557580p28724755.html >>>>> Sent from the Apache Felix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Freeman Fang >>> ------------------------ >>> Open Source SOA: http://fusesource.com >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > ------------------------ > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ > ------------------------ > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com
