Hi Peter,

Thank you very much for your interested. You pointed a distinct way
for me, i have read some documents about your bndtools project, may be
it is a good idea to build such a tool based on bndtools.  I would
like build my project as an extension to bndtools very much.

Google Summer of Code 2011 have began already, i will finish my
"Bndtools based OSGi bundles maker" project proposal in the next
couple days and submit it in GSoC web site[1], obviously, i will mark
you as my project mentor in my proposal, the only problem is that you
should register as a mentor in GSoC web site and mentor my project. If
you do not know GSoC much, the following links [2][3][4] may help you
much.

Hoping that you can finish a fantastic job together this summer :-)


[1] http://socghop.appspot.com
[2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html
[3] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
[4] http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html


2011/3/30 Peter Kriens <[email protected]>:
> I am very interested in this, especially in relation to bnd(tools). Some 
> thoughts.
>
> The trick is to find strongly coupled packages. These are packages that are 
> in a cycle. A -> B -> C -> A. Normally I find that these packages should be 
> in the same bundle. In bnd (the current next branch) I already can calculate 
> those strongly connected packages. In general, I find that many, especially 
> larger, bundles consist of a number of subsystems.
>
> These subsystems have dependencies on each other, however, by definition 
> there is no cycle between these subsystem dependencies (otherwise they would 
> be strongly connected and be part of the same subsystem).
>
> I find that there are then the following types of subsystems:
>
> API - Self contained, no internal dependencies. All exported/imported. Very 
> few dependencies. The OSGi specification packages are prime examples. Having 
> imports in these packages is always suspect. In my experience, API must be 
> maintained independently but carried in the bundle that implements the API.
> Library - Exported code == implementation. Few imports, everything is 
> exported and in general packages are not substitutable.
> Implementation - Private code. No exports, many imports, If it provides an 
> API it should carry the API packages.
> Bridge - Connects an external subsystem to an internal subsystem. Imports 
> impl. code, no exports. This case is special because they tend to drag in a 
> lot dependencies that are only required when the dependency is already there. 
> For example, a subsystem can provide packages that make it useful in Spring. 
> I.e. it does not require Spring but when other people use spring the package 
> can be used in that connected world. Another example is bnd. It is an ant 
> task but it should only require ant when it runs inside ant.
>
> What I am looking for is an extension to bndtools that allows me to visualize 
> this model and refactor the code accordingly. The techniques should be in bnd 
> (which is a restricted environment) and the GUI should be in bndtools, If 
> you're willing to work this way then I'd love to be your Google code mentor.
>
> Kind regards,
>
>        Peter Kriens
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 17 mrt 2011, at 03:58, Tiger Gui wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Recently, i am working on split my huge project in to many small
>> sub-projects on OSGi way. Obviously, i want to use Felix as my OSGi
>> framework, but as you know, this splitting job is a long and boring process.
>> So, i am thinking that why can we build some tools for us to do this job ?
>> I want to develop such a tool for Apache Felix, you guys have been working
>> with Felix for a long time, so do you have any adivses about my project idea
>> ?  If you have any suggestions, please let me know, thank you.
>>
>> Meanwhile, i want to attend Google Summer of Code 2011 [1] with this
>> project, this activity will help open source project development progress,
>> but i must find a mentor to help me to participate in this activity
>> together, so if you are interested, let me know too :-)
>>
>>
>> [1] http://socghop.appspot.com/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Tiger Gui [[email protected]]
>
>



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