Sorry Peter, I supplied wrong URLs in the last mail.   The issue url
is [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-2899, and GSoC 2011
idea list url is [2]. There is no "assign" field in issue add/edit
page, so i can not assign the issue to you, i do know why


[1]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-2899

[2]https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?requestId=12315354

2011/3/31 Tiger Gui <[email protected]>:
> Hi Peter,
>
> I have created the JIRA issue "[GSoc 2011]Bndtools based OSGi bundles
> maker project" [1] in Apache JIRA system, now it is in Apache GSoC
> 2011 issue list, and i also mentioin mentor and gsoc in the labels. I
> want to assign you as mentor for this project, but i do not know how
> to do it, i have been traveling in the JIRA system for hours, but can
> not find how to assign a mentor for a issue :-(
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FELIX-2898
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?pager/start=50
>
> 2011/3/30 Peter Kriens <[email protected]>:
>> As far as I understand you should create a JIRA issue in FELIX for this and 
>> assign it to me. You should then mention mentor and gsoc in the labels. This 
>> should assign me as mentor. I am a Felix committer.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>>        Peter Kriens
>>
>> On 30 mrt 2011, at 10:42, Tiger Gui wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your interested. You pointed a distinct way
>>> for me, i have read some documents about your bndtools project, may be
>>> it is a good idea to build such a tool based on bndtools.  I would
>>> like build my project as an extension to bndtools very much.
>>>
>>> Google Summer of Code 2011 have began already, i will finish my
>>> "Bndtools based OSGi bundles maker" project proposal in the next
>>> couple days and submit it in GSoC web site[1], obviously, i will mark
>>> you as my project mentor in my proposal, the only problem is that you
>>> should register as a mentor in GSoC web site and mentor my project. If
>>> you do not know GSoC much, the following links [2][3][4] may help you
>>> much.
>>>
>>> Hoping that you can finish a fantastic job together this summer :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://socghop.appspot.com
>>> [2] http://community.apache.org/guide-to-being-a-mentor.html
>>> [3] http://s.apache.org/gsoc2011tasks
>>> [4] http://community.apache.org/gsoc.html
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/3/30 Peter Kriens <[email protected]>:
>>>> I am very interested in this, especially in relation to bnd(tools). Some 
>>>> thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> The trick is to find strongly coupled packages. These are packages that 
>>>> are in a cycle. A -> B -> C -> A. Normally I find that these packages 
>>>> should be in the same bundle. In bnd (the current next branch) I already 
>>>> can calculate those strongly connected packages. In general, I find that 
>>>> many, especially larger, bundles consist of a number of subsystems.
>>>>
>>>> These subsystems have dependencies on each other, however, by definition 
>>>> there is no cycle between these subsystem dependencies (otherwise they 
>>>> would be strongly connected and be part of the same subsystem).
>>>>
>>>> I find that there are then the following types of subsystems:
>>>>
>>>> API - Self contained, no internal dependencies. All exported/imported. 
>>>> Very few dependencies. The OSGi specification packages are prime examples. 
>>>> Having imports in these packages is always suspect. In my experience, API 
>>>> must be maintained independently but carried in the bundle that implements 
>>>> the API.
>>>> Library - Exported code == implementation. Few imports, everything is 
>>>> exported and in general packages are not substitutable.
>>>> Implementation - Private code. No exports, many imports, If it provides an 
>>>> API it should carry the API packages.
>>>> Bridge - Connects an external subsystem to an internal subsystem. Imports 
>>>> impl. code, no exports. This case is special because they tend to drag in 
>>>> a lot dependencies that are only required when the dependency is already 
>>>> there. For example, a subsystem can provide packages that make it useful 
>>>> in Spring. I.e. it does not require Spring but when other people use 
>>>> spring the package can be used in that connected world. Another example is 
>>>> bnd. It is an ant task but it should only require ant when it runs inside 
>>>> ant.
>>>>
>>>> What I am looking for is an extension to bndtools that allows me to 
>>>> visualize this model and refactor the code accordingly. The techniques 
>>>> should be in bnd (which is a restricted environment) and the GUI should be 
>>>> in bndtools, If you're willing to work this way then I'd love to be your 
>>>> Google code mentor.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>
>>>>        Peter Kriens
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 mrt 2011, at 03:58, Tiger Gui wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> Recently, i am working on split my huge project in to many small
>>>>> sub-projects on OSGi way. Obviously, i want to use Felix as my OSGi
>>>>> framework, but as you know, this splitting job is a long and boring 
>>>>> process.
>>>>> So, i am thinking that why can we build some tools for us to do this job ?
>>>>> I want to develop such a tool for Apache Felix, you guys have been working
>>>>> with Felix for a long time, so do you have any adivses about my project 
>>>>> idea
>>>>> ?  If you have any suggestions, please let me know, thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Meanwhile, i want to attend Google Summer of Code 2011 [1] with this
>>>>> project, this activity will help open source project development progress,
>>>>> but i must find a mentor to help me to participate in this activity
>>>>> together, so if you are interested, let me know too :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://socghop.appspot.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best Regards
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Tiger Gui [[email protected]]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards
>>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>> Tiger Gui [[email protected]]
>>
>>
>
>
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------
> Tiger Gui [[email protected]]
>



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