On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 5:42 PM Pierre De Rop <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> +1 from me as well.
>
> I'm also very interested.
> I did not know that Karl also worked on implementing the OSGi Connect RFC.

Well, Tom and I sort of started it together and the initial interfaces
actually are from Felix.

> Karl, will it also support class loading from a Graal Substrate native
> image environment ?

That is the plan.

> I ask this because I'm currently trying to adapt the Felix Connect ([1])
> for the support of native image; so maybe my work is then useless if your
> upcoming framework is (or will) support Graal native image ...

Yeah, I think we should eventually retire the current impl in favour
of the new RFC. However, the question is how fast that will happen...

regards,

Karl

> regards
> Pierre
>
> [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/felix/trunk/connect/
>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:31 PM Richard S. Hall <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Sounds reasonable to me.
> >
> > -> richard
> >
> > On 1/23/20 10:08 AM, Thomas Watson wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The OSGI R8 Core specification is currently being worked on by the OSGi
> > > Alliance.  One of the proposals is to add something called OSGi Connect
> > to
> > > the Core Framework specification [1] [2].
> > >
> > > This specification takes much of its initial inspiration from the current
> > > Felix Connect/PojoSR project.  The basic idea for OSGI Connect is to
> > allow
> > > content managed outside of the OSGi Framework to be represented as
> > > (connected to) bundles installed inside the Framework.
> > >
> > > As we have been developing the OSGi Connect specification I have been
> > > working on a proof of concept called Atomos [3] that implements different
> > > strategies for representing content managed from outside the Framework as
> > > bundles inside the framework.  Currently Atomos can run bundles from the
> > > following environments:
> > >
> > > 1) Using the Java class path - Atomos will discover any bundle JARs on
> > the
> > > class path and represent them as installed bundles.  This most closely
> > > resembles what Felix PojoSR currently does I think.
> > >
> > > 2) Using the Java module path - Atomos will discover all modules in the
> > > Module Layer hierarchy and represent them as installed bundles.  This
> > > includes modules that have bundle manifests as well as ones that do not.
> > > This also extends to the ability to load the framework and set of bundles
> > > from a jlink image.
> > >
> > > 3) Using Graal Substrate native - With additional work to configure
> > native
> > > compilation Atomos can enable the Framework and a set of bundles to be
> > > compiled into a native image.
> > >
> > > Now that we are progressing the specification for OSGi R8, I would like
> > to
> > > contribute Atomos to an existing OSGi community where it may gain greater
> > > adoption and contribution from others. I think Apache Felix is a good
> > fit.
> > > My plan is to have Atomos work with any OSGi R8 Framework implementation
> > > that supports OSGi Connect and would have the tests run using both the
> > > Felix and Equinox Framework to prove it continues to only use OSGi
> > > specified APIs to do so. The project itself already is Apache-2.0
> > licensed.
> > >
> > > What to others think about contributing Atomos to Apache Felix?
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > [1] - https://blog.osgi.org/2019/09/osgi-connect-revisited.html
> > > [2] -
> > >
> > https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfcs/rfc0243/rfc-0243-Connect.pdf
> > > [3] - https://github.com/tjwatson/atomos
> > >
> >
> >



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Karl Pauls
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