Yes, I will call a vote now. regards,
Karl On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 9:33 PM Thomas Watson <tjw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > With Karl's help we have now updated Atomos to be able to use a build of > the Felix Framework that implements OSGi Connect. I have not yet figured > out how to automate running the junit tests on both Equinox and Felix with > Atomos just yet. But Atomos now has a substrate example using Equinox and > another using Felix. > > Given the responses so far, and the fact that we have made good progress > getting Atomos to work with both Equinox and Felix I would like to move to > the next step. I assume that is calling for an official vote? > > Tom > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 6:50 PM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I updated the implementation in my sandbox to the latest interfaces. > > > > I guess I'll have to try them with Atomos next :-) > > > > regards, > > > > Karl > > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:25 PM Karl Pauls <karlpa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I have an implementation based on the original interfaces in my sandbox. > > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/felix/sandbox/pauls/connect/ > > > > > > It needs to be updated to the new interfaces which shouldn't be too > > > hard. I should have that done soon. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Karl > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2020 at 4:23 PM Carsten Ziegeler <cziege...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > > > sounds great to me. > > > > > > > > Afaik, the Felix framework does currently not implement OSGi connect. I > > > > guess in order to experience atomos with the Felix framework this work > > > > would need to be done as well. Are there any plans? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Carsten > > > > > > > > On 23.01.2020 16:08, Thomas Watson wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > The OSGI R8 Core specification is currently being worked on by the > > OSGi > > > > > Alliance. One of the proposals is to add something called OSGi > > Connect to > > > > > the Core Framework specification [1] [2]. > > > > > > > > > > This specification takes much of its initial inspiration from the > > current > > > > > Felix Connect/PojoSR project. The basic idea for OSGI Connect is to > > allow > > > > > content managed outside of the OSGi Framework to be represented as > > > > > (connected to) bundles installed inside the Framework. > > > > > > > > > > As we have been developing the OSGi Connect specification I have been > > > > > working on a proof of concept called Atomos [3] that implements > > different > > > > > strategies for representing content managed from outside the > > Framework as > > > > > bundles inside the framework. Currently Atomos can run bundles from > > the > > > > > following environments: > > > > > > > > > > 1) Using the Java class path - Atomos will discover any bundle JARs > > on the > > > > > class path and represent them as installed bundles. This most > > closely > > > > > resembles what Felix PojoSR currently does I think. > > > > > > > > > > 2) Using the Java module path - Atomos will discover all modules in > > the > > > > > Module Layer hierarchy and represent them as installed bundles. This > > > > > includes modules that have bundle manifests as well as ones that do > > not. > > > > > This also extends to the ability to load the framework and set of > > bundles > > > > > from a jlink image. > > > > > > > > > > 3) Using Graal Substrate native - With additional work to configure > > native > > > > > compilation Atomos can enable the Framework and a set of bundles to > > be > > > > > compiled into a native image. > > > > > > > > > > Now that we are progressing the specification for OSGi R8, I would > > like to > > > > > contribute Atomos to an existing OSGi community where it may gain > > greater > > > > > adoption and contribution from others. I think Apache Felix is a > > good fit. > > > > > My plan is to have Atomos work with any OSGi R8 Framework > > implementation > > > > > that supports OSGi Connect and would have the tests run using both > > the > > > > > Felix and Equinox Framework to prove it continues to only use OSGi > > > > > specified APIs to do so. The project itself already is Apache-2.0 > > licensed. > > > > > > > > > > What to others think about contributing Atomos to Apache Felix? > > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > [1] - https://blog.osgi.org/2019/09/osgi-connect-revisited.html > > > > > [2] - > > > > > > > https://github.com/osgi/design/blob/master/rfcs/rfc0243/rfc-0243-Connect.pdf > > > > > [3] - https://github.com/tjwatson/atomos > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -- > > > > Carsten Ziegeler > > > > Adobe Research Switzerland > > > > cziege...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Karl Pauls > > > karlpa...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Karl Pauls > > karlpa...@gmail.com > > -- Karl Pauls karlpa...@gmail.com
