Hi David, OSGi has only recently moved to the Eclipse Foundation and has only been up and running there for a very short time (a few months). No committers have been added after gaining karma yet, but there is already an example of accepting a contribution from a non-committer [6].
I would certainly hope that the karma model works as well at OSGi in Eclipse as it works generally in Apache. At least I will definitely support this. I hope this addresses your concern. If nobody else has an issue with this I will assume that we can merge the projects. Kind regards, David [6] https://github.com/osgi/osgi/pull/195 On Fri, 7 May 2021 at 20:32, David Jencks <david.a.jen...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some recent experiences have led me to conclude that a project claiming to > be open-source does not mean that contributions are welcome or that it’s > possible to gain commit karma: at Apache we might be living in a very > pleasant bubble. Is there evidence that OSGI at Eclipse in fact does > welcome contributions from non-project-members and that it is possible to > gain commit karma? > > I think moving the implementation is a good idea but I’m a little > worried. I guess we could always fork it again if problems appear. > > David Jencks > > > On May 7, 2021, at 2:18 AM, dav...@apache.org wrote: > > > > Hi JB, > > > > Some of the contributors of the Converter at Felix are already committers > > at the Eclipse project [5]. > > Others can just create PRs for any changes to the > > https://github.com/osgi/osgi/ project. As it's an opensource project you > > can earn committer karma the usual open-source way. > > I have done a quick commit grep and found that of the 200 commits to the > > converter there are 13 made by people who are not already committers at > the > > OSGi project at Eclipse. > > > > I have also checked with Eclipse around releasing the component. Any > fixes > > that don't impact the API, i.e. micro-version releases can be done from > an > > Eclipse project pretty much any time. Fixes that do impact the API would > > also need a specification update. > > > > Best regards, > > > > David > > > > [5] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.osgi/who > > > > On Thu, 6 May 2021 at 16:23, Jean-Baptiste Onofre <j...@nanthrax.net> > wrote: > > > >> Hi David, > >> > >> It makes sense and it would be more "consistent" to have a single > >> repository. > >> > >> As Converter is part of the "spec", it makes sense to be located at > >> Eclipse. > >> > >> My only "concern" is about the contributions/contributors on Felix > >> Converter. > >> Will all Felix committers be able to change/maintain code at Eclipse > (the > >> code coming from Felix Converter) ? > >> > >> Regards > >> JB > >> > >>> Le 6 mai 2021 à 17:17, dav...@apache.org a écrit : > >>> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> As most would have noticed, OSGi has moved to the Eclipse Foundation > [1] > >>> and all the future OSGi specification work will happen there [2]. > >>> > >>> The Converter that's in the Felix codebase is an implementation of the > >> OSGi > >>> Converter specification [3]. As Converter is a 'util' specification, > OSGi > >>> also provides an implementation with the API. There could be other > >>> implementations as well, this is similar to what is done with Push > >> Streams > >>> and the Service Tracker. > >>> > >>> The initial implementation of the Converter Util at OSGi was based on > the > >>> same codebase as the Converter at Felix. In effect it's a fork. Over > time > >>> the two forks have started to diverge a little, mostly due to different > >>> fixes being applied to both of them. > >>> > >>> Now that OSGi is an Eclipse project and all of the OSGi technology at > >>> Eclipse is developed as ordinary opensource projects with the ASL2 > >> license > >>> I think it would be good if we could collapse these 2 forks into one > >> again. > >>> Because the Converter is the implementation shipped by OSGi as part of > >> its > >>> spec API (into [4]), we can't really remove the implementation from the > >>> OSGi codebase. > >>> So I would like to discuss removing the Converter from the Felix > >> codebase, > >>> so that the codebase can live on in a single location which would be: > >>> > >> > https://github.com/osgi/osgi/tree/main/org.osgi.util.converter/src/org/osgi/util/converter > >>> > >>> Obviously this would mean to consolidate all the bugfixes that went > into > >>> its Felix codebase into the combined one. > >>> Combining the codebases into one would mean that all users get the > >> benefit > >>> from work done to the implementation by both communities. > >>> > >>> I hope that the Felix community would be open to this. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> David Bosschaert > >>> > >>> [1] > >>> > >> > https://newsroom.eclipse.org/news/announcements/osgi-alliance-transfers-governance-osgi-specifications-open-source-software > >>> [2] https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/technology.osgi > >>> [3] > >> https://docs.osgi.org/specification/osgi.cmpn/7.0.0/util.converter.html > >>> [4] https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/osgi/org.osgi.util.converter/ > >> > >> > >
