Hi Austin,

Yeah… see convo on private.

Was planning on community VOTE next week. Or you can initiate.

Joshua Poore


> On Oct 25, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Austin Bennett <whatwouldausti...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Looks like community consensus is for graduation.
> 
> Is next step a formal vote?  Or, something else?
> 
> I am happy to check with incubator, etc on working through steps, in the
> event nobody else wants to drive this.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, 10:35 AM Rob Foley <r...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm also in favor of graduation.
>> 
>> Rob
>> 
>>> On 10/22/2022 1:44 PM, Austin Bennett wrote:
>>> +1
>>> 
>>> Graduation a great step, I am in favor.
>>> 
>>> I would like to see a bigger community [ of public users, and
>> contributors
>>> ], and those from different organizations.  But, graduation may help
>> that -
>>> as being graduated is a strong signaling mechanism.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 9:52 AM Gedd Johnson <geddjohns...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This is great to hear! Strongly in favor.
>>>> - Gedd
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 22:42 Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m initiating this DISCUSS thread to talk through the communities
>>>>> perspective (at this point in time) on Graduation as a Top Level
>> project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Flagon has tried to Graduate twice before first in 2018, and then in
>>>> 2020.
>>>>> Each time, we didn’t get any strong blockers, but some tickets that we
>>>>> worked to burn down. Ultimately, though the graduation VOTE on
>>>>> general@incubator just lost steam. Here is the last thread:
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/svf7ckpohmt4s9cflf35m12n3w0sz46z <
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/svf7ckpohmt4s9cflf35m12n3w0sz46z>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now, the Incubator is highly motivated to push projects that have been
>> in
>>>>> Incubation status longer than two years to move toward graduation.
>> Flagon
>>>>> is CERTAINLY on that list, and the remark is that we should have
>>>> graduated.
>>>>> At this point, there are certainly ways that our project and community
>>>> can
>>>>> improve. However, the following is true:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. The community has consistently VOTED in favor Graduation
>>>>> 2. Mentors have consistently been in favor of Graduation
>>>>> 3. The project has demonstrated stability and continued growth over the
>>>>> years
>>>>> 4. The project meets the maturity model of the incubator:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
>>>>> <
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
>>>>> 5. The Incubator is now very engaged in graduating (I suspect VOTEs on
>>>>> INCUBATOR won’t fizzle out)
>>>>> 
>>>>> The project and the community, like software, are never done. So the
>>>>> question to DISCUSS is whether the community agrees that we’re ready to
>>>>> self-govern and continue development outside the Incubator.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let’s discuss over the next week, and move to a VOTE on the week of the
>>>> 31
>>>>> OCT 2022.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Josh
>> 

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