Ah, ya, Josh, reread your email, I was thinking 72 hours [ lazy consensus
], I now notice you mention wanting to kick off a new community VOTE [ per
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community_graduation_vote
] week of the 31st, no reason to rush things at this point :-).

I don't mind doing some of the admin work towards getting flagon graduated,
should that be helpful.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 7:28 AM Joshua Poore <deeplyscott...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Austin,
>
> Yeah… see convo on private.
>
> Was planning on community VOTE next week. Or you can initiate.
>
> Joshua Poore
>
>
> > On Oct 25, 2022, at 3:54 PM, Austin Bennett <whatwouldausti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like community consensus is for graduation.
> >
> > Is next step a formal vote?  Or, something else?
> >
> > I am happy to check with incubator, etc on working through steps, in the
> > event nobody else wants to drive this.
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, 10:35 AM Rob Foley <r...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm also in favor of graduation.
> >>
> >> Rob
> >>
> >>> On 10/22/2022 1:44 PM, Austin Bennett wrote:
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> Graduation a great step, I am in favor.
> >>>
> >>> I would like to see a bigger community [ of public users, and
> >> contributors
> >>> ], and those from different organizations.  But, graduation may help
> >> that -
> >>> as being graduated is a strong signaling mechanism.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2022 at 9:52 AM Gedd Johnson <geddjohns...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> This is great to hear! Strongly in favor.
> >>>> - Gedd
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 22:42 Joshua Poore <poor...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I’m initiating this DISCUSS thread to talk through the communities
> >>>>> perspective (at this point in time) on Graduation as a Top Level
> >> project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Flagon has tried to Graduate twice before first in 2018, and then in
> >>>> 2020.
> >>>>> Each time, we didn’t get any strong blockers, but some tickets that
> we
> >>>>> worked to burn down. Ultimately, though the graduation VOTE on
> >>>>> general@incubator just lost steam. Here is the last thread:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/svf7ckpohmt4s9cflf35m12n3w0sz46z <
> >>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/svf7ckpohmt4s9cflf35m12n3w0sz46z>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now, the Incubator is highly motivated to push projects that have
> been
> >> in
> >>>>> Incubation status longer than two years to move toward graduation.
> >> Flagon
> >>>>> is CERTAINLY on that list, and the remark is that we should have
> >>>> graduated.
> >>>>> At this point, there are certainly ways that our project and
> community
> >>>> can
> >>>>> improve. However, the following is true:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1. The community has consistently VOTED in favor Graduation
> >>>>> 2. Mentors have consistently been in favor of Graduation
> >>>>> 3. The project has demonstrated stability and continued growth over
> the
> >>>>> years
> >>>>> 4. The project meets the maturity model of the incubator:
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
> >>>>> <
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html
> >>>>> 5. The Incubator is now very engaged in graduating (I suspect VOTEs
> on
> >>>>> INCUBATOR won’t fizzle out)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The project and the community, like software, are never done. So the
> >>>>> question to DISCUSS is whether the community agrees that we’re ready
> to
> >>>>> self-govern and continue development outside the Incubator.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Let’s discuss over the next week, and move to a VOTE on the week of
> the
> >>>> 31
> >>>>> OCT 2022.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh
> >>
>

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