We looked at this in detail at the time, but just skimming I see a couple of
things:

10.1.1. General Restrictions.
(a) No Access to Maps API(s) except through the Service. You must not access
or use the Maps API(s) or any Content through any technology or means other
than those provided in the Service, or through other explicitly authorized
means Google may designate. For example, you must not access map tiles or
imagery through interfaces or channels (including undocumented Google
interfaces) other than the Maps API(s).

(c) No Reverse Engineering. You must not attempt to reverse engineer or
decompile the Services or any component, or attempt to create a substitute
or similar service through use of or access to the Services, unless this is
expressly permitted or required by applicable law.

10.2 Restrictions on the Types of Applications that You are Permitted to
Build with the Maps API(s). Except as explicitly permitted in Section 8
(Licenses from Google to You) or the Maps APIs Documentation, you must not
(nor may you permit anyone else to) do any of the following:

(a) No "Wrapping." You must not create or offer a "wrapper" for the Service,
unless you obtain Google's written consent to do so. For example, you are
not permitted to: (i) use or provide any part of the Service or Content
(such as map imagery, geocoding, directions, places, or terrain data) in an
API that you offer to others; or (ii) create a Maps API Implementation that
reimplements or duplicates Google Maps/Google Earth. For clarity, you are
not "re-implementing or duplicating" Google Maps/Google Earth if your Maps
API Implementation provides substantial additional features or content
beyond Google Maps/Google Earth, and those additional features or content
constitute the primary defining characteristic of your Maps API
Implementation.

The first bit may have some room for interpretation around what constitutes
"the Service", but the rest is pretty explicit.  You can't make a substitute
flash library based on the Google services..
It might be possible to get their permission, but others haven't had very
positive responses in the past.

-Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 20 January 2013 17:49
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Google Maps

I'm not following. If you are getting the image data via their APIs, why is
it against the agreement?

On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:52 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote:

> You could do that -- but it is against the Google API license agreement.
> Technically, it is possible, but legally is is not.
> 
> -Nick
> 
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 3:59 AM, Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> For AIR apps, using the Google APIs as is in an HTML component should 
>> work fine.
>> 
>> As I understand it, the concern in this whole discussion is about web 
>> apps. Right?
>> 
>> How is the maps actually displayed by the maps API? I imagine that 
>> the map data is downloaded as images. Is there any reason that we 
>> couldn't just grab that image data and display it in the display list?
>> 
>> On Jan 17, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Tomislav Pokrajcic wrote:
>> 
>>> There are also problems when it comes to placing that kind of
>> 'components' (e.g. HTML overlay) into a scrollable container.
>>> If anyone figures out a solution for handling that case it would be 
>>> an
>> interesting thing.
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Tomislav
>>> 
>>> On 17.1.2013. 10:29, Alain Ekambi wrote:
>>>> Hallo Markus,
>>>> 
>>>> Thx for the inputs.
>>>> Like i said in my earlier post our main focus was to first get the 
>>>> GoogleMaps API exported so that one can easely access it from 
>>>> Flash4j
>> all
>>>> in Java.
>>>> Now that that s done we will focus on the Widget itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Be assured that we will fixed all the issues before the 3.1 release.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Alain
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2013/1/17 Marcus Fritze <marcus.fri...@googlemail.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Alain,
>>>>> 
>>>>> you example looks good, but I think it has a serious bug. The map 
>>>>> lays over the flex application. So it covers the flex application.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Example:
>>>>> - open Google Maps in your explorer
>>>>> - klick on "About" in the top right corner
>>>>> - or another tab in your explorer
>>>>> - the content is always behind the map
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe, the map should be integrated in something like a HTML frame 
>>>>> (mx.controls.HTML / currently only AIR) for a better integration 
>>>>> into
>> the
>>>>> flex app.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marcus Fritze
>>>>> 
>>>>> Am 17.01.2013 um 00:52 schrieb Alain Ekambi <jazzmatad...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Work is in progress to release it soon.
>>>>>> Here is a life demo :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://flex4j.appspot.com/#misc.maps.GoogleMaps
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Flex4j is build on top of Flash4j(http://emitrom.com/flash4j) 
>>>>>> which
>>>>> itself
>>>>>> is built on top of the Google Web Toolkit.
>>>>>> Because we leverage GWT it s pretty easy to integrate any JS 
>>>>>> based
>>>>> library.
>>>>>> Something you dont get with native ActionScript.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the upcoming 3.1 release we  added support for Google Maps. 
>>>>>> As you
>>>>> can
>>>>>> see the integration is seamless. You can click on the buttons to 
>>>>>> see
>> it
>>>>> in
>>>>>> action.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2013/1/16 aYo ~ <a...@binitie.com>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hmmmmm sounds very interesting. Of love to know how this works 
>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 2013 3:06 AM, "Alain Ekambi" <jazzmatad...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> For those willing to use Java we have a solution on how to 
>>>>>>>> integrate
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Maps JS with Flex.
>>>>>>>> As a matter a fact we provide a 100%  binding of the Google 
>>>>>>>> Maps
>> API.
>>>>>>>> I should be able to share some more details in a few.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alain
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Kessler CTR Mark J <mark.kessler....@usmc.mil>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  I'm going to guess that as long as you're using the Google 
>>>>>>>>> API
>> even
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>> it's the JavaScript one you are fine.  Just as long as the 
>>>>>>>>> data is
>>>>>>> coming
>>>>>>>>> through their API using your dev key.  However the illegal way
>> would
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> scrap their websites or try to access the data directly 
>>>>>>>>> without
>> going
>>>>>>>>> through their API.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Mark
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Avi Kessner [mailto:akess...@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:23
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Google Maps
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This is making me confused. What exactly is illegal about 
>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>> interface to use Google apis? Google suggests migrating to 
>>>>>>>>> their
>> new
>>>>>>>>> version. Migration to me implies its not banned.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013 6:27 PM, "Alain Ekambi" 
>>>>>>>>> <jazzmatad...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Another reason why  we went away from ActionScript 
>>>>>>>>>> Development
>> with
>>>>>>>> Flex.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Charles Monteiro <char...@nycsmalltalk.org>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Forgive my ignorance too, I do have a need for location api 
>>>>>>>>>>> but I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> gotten to it yet. Google is what I was assuming I would use.
>>>>>>>>>>> Doesn't Google have a REST API that we could tap into anyhow ?
>> Not
>>>>>>>>> familiar
>>>>>>>>>>> at all with what the Flex lib did
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> -Charles
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Harbs 
>>>>>>>>>>> <harbs.li...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Huh?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> If it would use the JS APIs, how would that be illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, Tolga Kaya wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be done but as I previously stated it would be 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegal
>>>>>>>>> beacuse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> google prevents accessing the map data other than its 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal
>>>>>>>> APIs
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/15 Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't we just replicate what they did using the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Javascript
>>>>>>> APIs?
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Charles A. Monteiro
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.monteirosfusion.com
>>>>>>>>>>>> sent from the road
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 

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