Well, I'm an Adobe employee, but not an official spokesperson, so the
following is just my personal opinion.

1) I'm not sure your claims of making no profit is accurate
2) I'm not sure what "developer tools" you are referring to, but Adobe is
definitely all about creatives these days.
3) FlexJS still uses FB and FP at development time, but otherwise, I'm
trying to get you off of the Adobe stack too ;-)

-Alex

On 10/28/13 10:29 AM, "Avi Kessner" <akess...@gmail.com> wrote:

>About this whole Flash/Actionscript/Flex debacle.  They destroyed customer
>relations, while continuing to build up the flash player. They make things
>open source, while making the ability to consume it proprietary, and yet
>make no profit from that proprietary technology. (yes I'm aware about the
>licensing issues, but that seems like something that could be worked
>around
>in one way or another)   They buy great web technologies, but then make it
>impossible to integrate them into Flash.  They build developer tools, but
>then advertise to "artists" instead of "developers".  Their actions have
>caused me to want to abandon them as quickly as possible, and that can't
>be
>smart.  I went from regularly talking to 20-30 people about Adobe
>products,
>to maybe 5.
>
>brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
>and the number 47
>
>
>On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, I'll bite.  Stupid about what?
>>
>> On 10/28/13 7:04 AM, "Avi Kessner" <akess...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Why is adobe being so stupid?  That's all I have to wonder...
>> >
>> >brought to you by the letters A, V, and I
>> >and the number 47
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Maurice Amsellem <
>> >maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Look at the source code of this page.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> 
>>http://www.areweflashyet.com/shumway/examples/inspector/inspector.html?rf
>> >>ile=../Box2DFlashAS3/demo.swf
>> >>
>> >> Interesting...
>> >>
>> >> Maurice
>> >>
>> >> -----Message d'origine-----
>> >> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com]
>> >> Envoyé : lundi 28 octobre 2013 14:36
>> >> À : dev@flex.apache.org
>> >> Objet : RE: Mozilla takes on Flash
>> >>
>> >> Hi Sebastian,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for sharing the link.
>> >>
>> >> I believe this is more of a competitor to FlexJS, although Shumway
>>seems
>> >> more aimed at Flash SWFs.
>> >>
>> >> It would be interesting to make comparisons between the two, in
>>terms of
>> >> performance , even if they are not at the same level of completion.
>> >>
>> >> Maurice
>> >>
>> >> -----Message d'origine-----
>> >> De : Sebastian Mohr [mailto:flex.masul...@gmail.com] Envoyé : lundi
>>28
>> >> octobre 2013 14:17 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Mozilla takes on
>> >>Flash
>> >>
>> >> Does anyone have an idea what this [1] means to us?
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> 
>>http://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2013/10/mozilla-takes-on-flash/?goback=%2
>> >>Egde_4296888_member_5797420905202204675#%21
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sebastian (PMC)
>> >> Interaction Designer
>> >>
>> >> Looking for a Login
>> >> Example<http://code.google.com/p/masuland/wiki/LoginExample>with
>> >> Apache Flex? This guy loves ... Flash Catalyst CS5.5, the
>> >> Designer&Developer Workflow and Design Tools for Apache Flex ...
>>What do
>> >> you love?
>> >>
>>
>>

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