Nope on the default to [LAZY]. When reading it I assumed that was the technical term for the way we've been voting: at least 3 +1 and no -1. My bad.
The default should be the strictest (Consensus, if I have my terminology correct) and if someone wants to deviate, it should be clearly marked in the subject of the vote email (i.e. with [LAZY] added). Also, I think for releases and committers/PMC members, LAZY shouldn't be an option. If you can't find 3 votes, something is up ;-) EdB On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: > > > On 11/6/13 9:32 PM, "Justin Mclean" <jus...@classsoftware.com> wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>> I thought most votes to approve committers were consensus, not lazy >>>consensus. >>It varies but more lazy than not I believe. But no issue either way as >>far as I'm concerned. We've not have a vote that's had less than 3 +1 so >>it not been an issue, the last couple of votes I called were "Lazy" and >>there were no comments about that. > I didn't see [LAZY] in the vote subject so I didn't realize they were > lazy. In the one lazy vote to approve a donation, I didn't get any +1 > votes. I want folks to realize that if they confirm the draft as written, > we won't have results that show who and how many vote +1, we'll only know > that nobody objected or somebody had the energy to vote +1. I'd rather we > ask folks to vote one way or another when approving committers and pmc > membership. Thoughts from others? > >> >>> That seems to be the default for the HTTP project and what we've done >>>in the past. >>It's unclear what we done in the past because no one was sure of the >>voting system in operation, but it's not been an issue (see above). >>Serval other projects use lazy consensus for both committers and PMC eg >>Hive, Pig, Ant, clouldstack and others. Clouldstack bylaws only have 3 >>types of voting not omit consensus. >> >>HTTP project also have a "or by not contributing in any form to the >>project for over six months." clause as well, but that seems more >>controversial here. >> >>Basically each project is slightly different is the only conclusion you >>can come to. > Yes, but supposedly, HTTP project is the default unless I can ever get new > language approved for Voting.html. There's been way too much noise on > board@ and members@ so I haven't pushed the issue on incubator because I > think folks on all three lists are overwhelmed. >> >>Thanks, >>Justin >> > -- Ix Multimedia Software Jan Luykenstraat 27 3521 VB Utrecht T. 06-51952295 I. www.ixsoftware.nl
