Also, could you ask if jenkins is running on a locked session, or completely out of session.
The slave window can only work when in session or with session locked, but not "out of session". While the other methods (including "run as windows service") can also work out of session, but in this case, you need to check that service can interact with the desktop. I still have a few check to do here, to confirm these assumptions. Maurice -----Message d'origine----- De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 10 décembre 2013 23:35 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: [Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed Awesome. I hope you are correct. On 12/10/13 2:32 PM, "Maurice Amsellem" <maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote: >When you connect to https://builds.apache.org/computer/windows1/ > >It says just below the title "Connected through JNLP" > >I have compared with my own installation and there is a notable >difference: > >b.a.o: > >sun.java.command F:\hudson\hudson-slave\slave.jar -jnlpUrl >https://builds.apache.org/computer/windows1/slave-agent.jnlp -secret >2ac5728b916b5d3992b88fa28b8ed9ae243a057fde8e08bd16a32cd327264fb1 > >my Jenkins: >sun.java.command com.sun.javaws.Main >C:\Users\amsellem\AppData\Local\Temp\javaws2 > > >According to Jenkins doc, the b.a.o launch method is used for headless >slaves, so that would explain why it does not get a window. > >I am trying to do the same now and let you know. > >-----Message d'origine----- >De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 10 décembre >2013 23:22 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: [Builds/Jenkins] Help >and advise needed > >Saw it. Have we asked him if the Flex build is running in a slave and >the slave has a window? > >On 12/10/13 2:17 PM, "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Here is Gavin's response a minute ago: >> >>================= >>> Gavin, >>> >>> Can you please copy-paste this line into a command prompt and tell >>>us what the result is: >>> >>> "%PIXELBENDER_HOME%\pbutil.exe" >>> "F:\hudson\hudson-slave\workspace\flex- >>> sdk\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\graphics\shaderClasses\Color. >>> pbk" >>> "F:\hudson\hudson-slave\workspace\flex- >>> sdk\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\graphics\shaderClasses\Color. >>> pbj" >>> >>> (mind the wrap) >>> >>> Thanks! >> >>Result is a slight pause, then the prompt returns. No error, no output. >> >>(PixelBender is where its meant to be, PIXELBENDER_HOME is a user >>variable.) >> >>Let me know what's next to check , thanks >> >>Gav... >>================= >> >> >>On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:15 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala >><bigosma...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Don't know, but if you can prove that the slave can be configured >>>>in a way that it won't run, then we have a more specific question >>>>to ask infra. >>>> >>>> -Alex >>>> >>> >>> Wow, this is like CSI ;-) >>> >>> Here is what we know. Gavin recently installed a new slave >>>(windows2) I am guessing that something was probably changed in the >>>way slaves are run. >>> >>> BTW, here is another piece of information. This is the system info >>> for >>> windows1: >>> >>> https://builds.apache.org/computer/windows1/systemInfo >>> >>> Anything looks out of the ordinary? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Om >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 12/10/13 1:55 PM, "Maurice Amsellem" >>>> <maurice.amsel...@systar.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >According to jenkins gui, there are 4 ways of starting the slave : >>>> >- Java web start (JNLP) >>>> >- command line from master >>>> >- via SSH on Unix machines >>>> >- as a Windows Service. >>>> > >>>> >I am using JNLP, but maybe the other launch methods don't get a >>>>window. >>>> >I am going to try "as a Windows Service". >>>> > >>>> >Is there a way to know how the slave is launched on b.a.o? >>>> > >>>> >Maurice >>>> >-----Message d'origine----- >>>> >De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 10 >>>> >décembre 2013 22:46 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: >>>> >[Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed >>>> > >>>> >InterestingŠ Is there a way to configure a slave so it doesn't >>>> >get a window? Maybe Infra changed some default on builds.a.o. >>>> > >>>> >On 12/10/13 1:44 PM, "Maurice Amsellem" >>>> ><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> >>>> >wrote: >>>> > >>>> >>Now run the same build on a slave node (that gets a windows >>>> >>"jenkins slave agent", that is visible on the desktop ): >>>> >> >>>> >>Remote build on windowsSlave1 in workspace >>>> >>D:\Jenkins\node1\workspace\workspace\Test_pixel_bender >>>> >>[framework] $ cmd.exe /C '"ant.bat -file build.xml >>>>pixelbender-compile >>>> >>&& exit %%ERRORLEVEL%%"' >>>> >>ANT_OPTS=-Xms256m -Xmx1024m -XX:PermSize=64m -XX:MaxPermSize=512m >>>> >>-XX:MaxHeapSize=512m -XX:+CMSClassUnloadingEnabled >>>> >>-Djava.net.preferIPv4Stack=true >>>> >>Buildfile: >>>> >>>>>>D:\ApacheFlex\git_source\flex-sdk\frameworks\projects\framework\bu >>>>>>ild >>>>>>. >>>>>>x >>>> >>ml >>>> >> >>>> >>pixelbender-compile: >>>> >> [exec] Device: 005EC1C4 has video RAM(MB): 512 >>>> >> [exec] Vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation >>>> >> [exec] Renderer string: NVS 4200M/PCI/SSE2 >>>> >> [exec] Version string: 3.0.0 >>>> >> [exec] >>>> >> [exec] OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator... >>>> >> [exec] OpenGL Version 3.0 >>>> >> [exec] Has NPOT support: TRUE >>>> >> [exec] Has Framebuffer Obeject Extension support: TRUE >>>> >> [exec] Completed shader test! >>>> >> [exec] Return code: 7 >>>> >> [exec] Result: 7 >>>> >>BUILD SUCCESSFUL >>>> >>Total time: 8 seconds >>>> >>Finished: SUCCESS >>>> >> >>>> >>Well, that's a difference. >>>> >> >>>> >>Maurice >>>> >> >>>> >>-----Message d'origine----- >>>> >>De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 10 >>>> >>décembre >>>> >>2013 22:40 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: [Builds/Jenkins] >>>> >>Help and advise needed >>>> >> >>>> >>Nice. Thanks for sticking with it. >>>> >> >>>> >>On 12/10/13 1:21 PM, "Maurice Amsellem" >>>> >><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> >>>> >>wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>>So I just installed Jenkins on my PC, running inside Tomcat 6 >>>> >>>64bit >>>>( >>>> >>>Tomcat is running as a Windows Service). >>>> >>> >>>> >>>- Created a simple job, on the "master" node, than starts >>>> >>>flex-sdk\frameworks\projects\framework\build.xml >>>>"pixelbender-compile" >>>> >>>target >>>> >>>- Jenkins output of the job: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>pixelbender-compile: >>>> >>> [exec] AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Device: 008BB2BC has video RAM(MB): 3844 >>>> >>> [exec] Device: 008BB2BC has video RAM(MB): 512 >>>> >>> [exec] Return code: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] ERROR: AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] ERROR: AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] ERROR: AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] ERROR: AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] ERROR: AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] ERROR: AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] ERROR: AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] ERROR: AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> [exec] ERROR: AIF Internal exception >>>> >>> [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>> >>>> >>>So I am getting the same error. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Om says "master" does not get a window, so this result seems to >>>> >>>be normal. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>I am trying now to create a slave node and run the job on it. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Maurice >>>> >>> >>>> >>>-----Message d'origine----- >>>> >>>De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com] >>>> >>>Envoyé : mardi 10 décembre 2013 22:07 À : dev@flex.apache.org >>>> >>>Objet : RE: [Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed >>>> >>> >>>> >>>It was from the command line (cmd ant ), so gets a window. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>I am trying now from Jenkins service, but needs to install it >>>>first... >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Maurice >>>> >>> >>>> >>>-----Message d'origine----- >>>> >>>De : omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] De la part de >>>> >>>OmPrakash Muppirala Envoyé : mardi 10 décembre 2013 20:49 À : >>>> >>>dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: [Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise >>>> >>>needed >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Maurice, >>>> >>> >>>> >>>When you ran it on your machine, was it on Cygwin or from Jenkins? >>>> >>>I think there is a difference. On Jenkins, the main executor >>>>(master) >>>> >>>does not get a window. Only slave executors are configured to >>>> >>>get a window. >>>> >>>Whereas Cygwin does not have such restrictions. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>Thanks, >>>> >>>Om >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> I have no idea what to do with that information. But thanks >>>> >>>>for trying. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/10/13 11:44 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" >>>> >>>> <maurice.amsel...@systar.com> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >So this is the output from the b.a.o box: >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >pixelbender-compile: >>>> >>>> > [exec] Device: 004C5F24 has video RAM(MB): 3736 >>>> >>>> > [exec] AIF Internal exception >>>> >>>> > [exec] Return code: 1 >>>> >>>> > [exec] Result: 1 >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >To be compared to the output on my PC: >>>> >>>> >pixelbender-compile >>>> >>>> >exec >>>> >>>> >Device: 00633CEC has video RAM(MB): 512 >>>> >>>> >Vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation >>>> >>>> >Renderer string: NVS 4200M/PCI/SSE2 >>>> >>>> >Version string: 3.0.0 >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator... >>>> >>>> >OpenGL Version 3.0 >>>> >>>> >Has NPOT support: TRUE >>>> >>>> >Has Framebuffer Obeject Extension support: TRUE Completed >>>> >>>> >shader test! >>>> >>>> >Return code: 7 >>>> >>>> >Result: 7 >>>> >>>> >Exec >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >That does not tell much, except that there seems to be an >>>> >>>> >issue with accessing the GPU. >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >Shall I un-commit the change now, or do you want to perform >>>> >>>> >more tests >>>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >Maurice >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >-----Message d'origine----- >>>> >>>> >De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsel...@systar.com] >>>> >>>> >Envoyé : mardi 10 décembre 2013 20:37 À : >>>>dev@flex.apache.orgObjet : >>>> >>>> >RE: [Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >I don't have a Mac with ApacheFlex SDK for testing. >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >Can you try on your side, please ? >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >-----Message d'origine----- >>>> >>>> >De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 10 >>>> >>>> >décembre >>>> >>>> >2013 >>>> >>>> >20:34 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: [Builds/Jenkins] >>>> >>>> >Help >>>>and >>>> >>>> >advise needed >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >Won't that break Mac builds? >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >On 12/10/13 11:32 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" >>>> >>>> ><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> >>>> >>>> >wrote: >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>Alex, it's one line to change in the build.xml >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >><exec executable="${env.PIXELBENDER_HOME}/sniffer_gpu.exe"/> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>I will give it a try and we will know in 15 min. >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>I am sure the result will be interesting. >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>Anyway, it can't hurt ;-) >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>Maurice >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>-----Message d'origine----- >>>> >>>> >>De : Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 10 >>>> >>>> >>décembre >>>> >>>> >>2013 20:29 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: >>>> >>>> >>[Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>I think I'll wait to see how Gavin responds to Erik's latest >>>> >>>>request. >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>BTW, thanks for finding out about the tool. >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>-Alex >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>On 12/10/13 11:27 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" >>>> >>>> >><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> >>>> >>>> >>wrote: >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >>>Sure, if you can ask him. >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>Maurice >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>-----Message d'origine----- De : Alex Harui >>>> >>>> >>>[mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 10 décembre >>>> >>>> >>>2013 20:26 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: >>>> >>>> >>>[Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>Might be simpler just to ask Gavin to run the tool? >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>On 12/10/13 11:12 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" >>>> >>>> >>><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> >>>> >>>> >>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>There is a utility in pixel bender toolkit directory >>>> >>>> >>>>called "sniffer_gpu.exe" that check the presence and >>>> >>>> >>>>version of >>>>OpenGL: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Console output on my laptop is below: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Utilities - CS5\Pixel >>>>Bender >>>> >>>> >>>>Toolkit >>>> >>>> >>>>2>sniffer_gpu.exe >>>> >>>> >>>>Device: 0058A9F4 has video RAM(MB): 512 >>>> >>>> >>>>Vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation >>>> >>>> >>>>Renderer string: NVS 4200M/PCI/SSE2 >>>> >>>> >>>>Version string: 3.0.0 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>OpenGL version as determined by Extensionator... >>>> >>>> >>>>OpenGL Version 3.0 >>>> >>>> >>>>Has NPOT support: TRUE >>>> >>>> >>>>Has Framebuffer Obeject Extension support: TRUE Completed >>>>shader >>>> >>>>test! >>>> >>>> >>>>Return code: 7 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Maybe we could temporarily modify the build to run this >>>>utility >>>> >>>> >>>>and show the output on the b.a.o vm. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>WDYT ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Maurice >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-----Message d'origine----- De : Alex Harui >>>> >>>> >>>>[mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Envoyé : mardi 10 décembre >>>> >>>> >>>>2013 18:15 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: >>>>[Builds/Jenkins] >>>> >>>> >>>>Help and advise needed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I don't think we actually know the cause of the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>>I am going to continue to spend cycles to try to find out >>>>though. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>It would be nice to have an alternative to builds.a.o. >>>> >>>> >>>>I'm >>>>not >>>> >>>> >>>>sure if it will cost Om money to run a builds server. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On 12/10/13 2:01 AM, "Maurice Amsellem" >>>> >>>> >>>><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> >>>> >>>> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I understand that. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Actually, my "understanding" on this issue was that pixel >>>> >>>> >>>>>bender compiler required some sort of hardware >>>> >>>> >>>>>configuration (OpenGL, >>>> >>>> >>>>>etc...) that were not present on the b.a.o. new Windows >>>>Jenkins >>>> >>>> >>>>>slave node, so that's why the build was failing, and the >>>> >>>> >>>>>Apache Infra was reluctant to let us modify anything, or >>>> >>>> >>>>>even access the VM ourselves. >>>> >>>> >>>>>So that's why I was proposing a "software only" solution. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Now, it seems from what Om is saying that we can set up >>>> >>>> >>>>>and >>>>use >>>> >>>> >>>>>our own Jenkins slave node VM. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>That, of course, is much preferable... >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Maurice >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----Message d'origine----- De : Erik de Bruin >>>> >>>> >>>>>[mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl] Envoyé : mardi >>>> >>>> >>>>>10 décembre 2013 10:44 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: >>>> >>>> >>>>>[Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Maurice, >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Your help is very much appreciated! >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I put "legal" in quotes, the issue is not really one of >>>> >>>> >>>>>the law, more of the rules. An Apache release is supposed >>>> >>>> >>>>>to be 'source only', and we if we can produce needed >>>> >>>> >>>>>binaries from source, we keep only the source, not the >>>> >>>> >>>>>artefacts >>>>themselves in >>>> >>>>the repo. >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>EdB >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Maurice Amsellem >>>> >>>> >>>>><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>In addition to the various "legal" issues with binaries >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>in the >>>> >>>>repo. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I understand it's not a good idea to have binaries in >>>> >>>> >>>>>>the repo, so I won't insist. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> But please can you explain what are the legal issues of >>>> >>>> >>>>>>having binaries in the repo? Is this because of Adobe, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>or >>>>ASF >>>> >>>>rules ? >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On a side note, I was just trying to help, with my >>>> >>>> >>>>>> limited understanding and knowledge, and because the >>>> >>>> >>>>>> email thread >>>>was >>>> >>>> >>>>>> titled "help and advise needed" ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Maurice >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> -----Message d'origine----- De : Erik de Bruin >>>> >>>> >>>>>> [mailto:e...@ixsoftware.nl] Envoyé : >>>>mardi >>>> >>>> >>>>>> 10 décembre 2013 09:12 À : dev@flex.apache.org Objet : Re: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> [Builds/Jenkins] Help and advise needed >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> In addition to the various "legal" issues with binaries >>>> >>>> >>>>>>in the repo, we'd be masking the cause of this failure. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>In >>>>order >>>> >>>> >>>>>>to prevent further deterioration of the build process, >>>> >>>> >>>>>>we >>>>need >>>> >>>> >>>>>>to figure out what went wrong and fix it. >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> EdB >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> PS. Thanks for leaving the keyboard on the Mustella VM >>>> >>>> >>>>>> set >>>>to >>>> >>>>FR... >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Took me while to figure out that I hadn't gone insane >>>> >>>> >>>>>> or if my keyboard was broken ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Maurice Amsellem >>>> >>>> >>>>>><maurice.amsel...@systar.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> someone who does use the pbj's will grab the nightly >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> and >>>> >>>>complain. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> I don't understand. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Why would someone complain if the pbj's are in the >>>>nightly? >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> [From the other emai] >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>Apache repos aren't supposed to contain compiled code. >>>>The >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>pbj files were removed during the initial release audit. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>I don't think a workaround can involve checking in the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>pbj >>>> >>>>files. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>But we could borrow them from a prior release package >>>> >>>>temporarily. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>So we could make the compilation conditional on a env >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>parameter, and set that in the Jenkins job accordingly? >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>Yes but ... >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Alex, the conversation is getting out synch, so I am >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>not sure that I have understood what you said. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> So can we include the pbj in the repo, and have a >>>>parameter >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>to conditionally compile the pbj ? >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> - This parameter would be set by default to do the >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>compilation (so that folks can recompile) >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> - and turned off on the b.a.o vm, with pre-compiled >>>>pbj's. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Maurice >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> -- >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Ix Multimedia Software >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27 >>>> >>>> >>>>>> 3521 VB Utrecht >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> T. 06-51952295 >>>> >>>> >>>>>> I. www.ixsoftware.nl >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>-- >>>> >>>> >>>>>Ix Multimedia Software >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Jan Luykenstraat 27 >>>> >>>> >>>>>3521 VB Utrecht >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>T. 06-51952295 >>>> >>>> >>>>>I. www.ixsoftware.nl >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>> >